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Old 07-30-2007, 12:06 PM   #1
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Default Kobe is a good defender.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...tg_active.html

Active Leaders and Records for Defensive Rating

Leaders and Records for Defensive Rating: Season / Career / Active / Season-by-Season

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Note: Defensive Rating available since 1977-78 in NBA and since 1973-74 in ABA.

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Name DRtg
1 Ben Wallace 93.3
2 Tim Duncan 93.7
3 Marcus Camby 97.2
4 Jermaine O'Neal 98.4
5 Yao Ming 98.6
6 Malik Rose 98.7
7 Kenyon Martin 98.9
8 Dikembe Mutombo 99.1
9 Shawn Marion 99.2
10 Alonzo Mourning 99.3
11 Kevin Garnett 99.5
12 Jeff Foster 99.5
13 Kelvin Cato 99.8
14 Tyson Chandler 100.0
15 Andrei Kirilenko 100.1
16 Rasho Nesterovic 100.4
17 Shaquille O'Neal 100.5
18 Theo Ratliff 100.8
19 Chris Webber 100.8
20 Rasheed Wallace 100.9
21 Jason Kidd 101.0
22 Robert Horry 101.0
23 Kurt Thomas 101.1
24 Ron Artest 101.3
25 Bonzi Wells 101.4
26 Bruce Bowen 101.7
27 Bo Outlaw 101.7
28 Jason Collins 101.7
29 Tony Parker 101.9
30 P.J. Brown 101.9
31 Aaron McKie 102.0
32 Jamaal Magloire 102.1
33 Jamaal Tinsley 102.2
34 Richard Jefferson 102.2
35 Austin Croshere 102.3
36 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 102.3
37 Dirk Nowitzki 102.4
38 Aaron Williams 102.4
39 Dale Davis 102.6
40 Eddie Jones 102.6
41 Paul Pierce 102.6
42 Donyell Marshall 102.8
43 Amare Stoudemire 103.0
44 Hedo Turkoglu 103.1
45 Antonio McDyess 103.1
46 LeBron James 103.1
47 Tracy McGrady 103.1
48 Kirk Hinrich 103.1
49 Baron Davis 103.2
50 Brevin Knight 103.3


Wait... no, he didn't make the top 50.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:31 PM   #2
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

Did you even look at the players who are in the top 50??

Flawed, is my immediate reaction. Kobe sh-ts on lots of those guys, and im not even a Kobe fan.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:43 PM   #3
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

funny thread using clearly flawed ratings system. Malik Rose being near the top sticks out immedietely.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:43 PM   #4
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

Kobe is a great defender, one of the top perimeter defenders in the league. He's just lazy on defence. But when he's motivated, he's a hell of a lot better than most of those guys.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:48 PM   #5
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:48 PM   #6
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

Half those people don't even play 10 minutes a game.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:49 PM   #7
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

"36 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 102.3"

I cannot stand Kobe "the team killing R.apist", but anyone who thinks Zydrunas plays better overall D doesn't understand Basket Ball. While Kobe is no longer the lockdown defender he was before his last surgery, he can still play excellent man D, and solid weak side.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:22 PM   #8
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Webber a top 20 defender?
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:26 PM   #9
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

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36 Zydrunas Ilgauskas 102.3
37 Dirk Nowitzki 102.4


Wait... no, he didn't make the top 50.


Dirk and Z are top 50 defenders in the league? Really?
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:29 PM   #10
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

kobe has not been playing the defense he is capable of.. but when he wants to, he still is one of the better perimeter defender in the league.

as for the rating system... that's total flawed. Most if not all would consider one of the best perimeter defensive player ever to play this game.. yet if you look at the career rankings, Jordan didn't make it to top 50. This alone, makes me think this system is flawed.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:44 PM   #11
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

Austin Croshere at 35. Yikes! Good system, the guy is a shut down defender
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:50 PM   #12
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

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funny thread using clearly flawed ratings system. Malik Rose being near the top sticks out immedietely.

Obviously its basdly flawed, but that is not the proof. When Malijk was in his "prime" and was played frequently, he was a good defender. In fact, his first season with the Knicks, he was the best team and man defender on the roster.

Croshere is a MUCH better example of the flaws.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:54 PM   #13
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Default Re: Kobe is a good defender.

Bo Outlaw, Kelvin Cato are still active?

And as a Magic fan, how can you believe in a list that puts Hedo in the top 50?
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:00 PM   #14
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Bonzi Wells is ahead of Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker is way ahead of Kirk Hinrich. Nice list. :)
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:04 PM   #15
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