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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
No coach in today's league is playing his star player even 40 mpg, coaches are way too cautious about injuries and are bigger believers in resting nowadays. Last time a player averaged 40 MPG was over a decade ago.
And Wilt Chamberlain is dead. We're talking about hypotheticals here. And in my hypothetical scenario, Wilt's hypothetical coach recognizes that he's unstoppable and keeps him on the floor longer than average.
We're not trying to build rockets here.
Besides, how is he going to pad stats from the bench???
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by Full Court
Pace is slower, but defense is a TON looser. So he'd plausibly have a much higher field goal %, which would make up for the slower pace.
Funny, this guy right here watched tons of 60's basketball and he shows that the refs didn't allow any physical contact and the whistles were blowing like crazy.
19:10 mark
Look at the "loose" defense at 19:37
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Funny, this guy right here watched tons of 60's basketball and he shows that the refs didn't allow any physical contact and the whistles were blowing like crazy.
19:10 mark
Look at the "loose" defense at 19:37
His response...
Originally Posted by Full Court
Bronie! Bronie! BROOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNIIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by Full Court
And Wilt Chamberlain is dead. We're talking about hypotheticals here. And in my hypothetical scenario, Wilt's hypothetical coach recognizes that he's unstoppable and keeps him on the floor longer than average.
l
A smart coach would see these numbers and trade him for LeBron.
Lakers offense slightly regressed when they added Wilt.
101.7 ORTG without Wilt in '68
98.5 ORTG with Wilt in '69
Sixers offense with and without Wilt...
98.1 ORTG with Wilt in '68
98.1 ORTG without Wilt in '69.
No drop off whatsoever.
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Im actually surprised full court hasn't responded to the video I posted. I'm starting to see if you actually discuss basketball with him, he really doesn't know much and tends to go away when you back up your claims with facts.
He will respond right away if there are childish insults involved though.
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Im actually surprised full court hasn't responded to the video I posted. I'm starting to see if you actually discuss basketball with him, he really doesn't know much and tends to go away when you back up your claims with facts.
He will respond right away if there are childish insults involved though.
Bronnnnnnnieeeeeeee!!!!!
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Trust the process.
Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
This dude makes his first non-Lebron post (still managed to make this thread about him lol) and gets absolutely slaughtered by 1987. Stick to trolling
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by RRR3
His response...
^Yep. Confirmed triggered Bronie.
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Funny, this guy right here watched tons of 60's basketball and he shows that the refs didn't allow any physical contact and the whistles were blowing like crazy.
19:10 mark
Look at the "loose" defense at 19:37
Surely you don't think a sample size of a few cherry picked plays are representative of an era, do you? If you do, I'll be happy to post some videos of plays from that era that show tight defense. Lol.
But for the sake of discussion, let's assume you're right for a second. Who in today's game do you see effectively defending against Wilt?
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
A smart coach would see these numbers and trade him for LeBron.
Lakers offense slightly regressed when they added Wilt.
101.7 ORTG without Wilt in '68
98.5 ORTG with Wilt in '69
Sixers offense with and without Wilt...
98.1 ORTG with Wilt in '68
98.1 ORTG without Wilt in '69.
No drop off whatsoever.
A SMART coach would see that Wilt can perform on both ends of the court, while Bronie hasn't played good D in years. You'd be out of your mind to want Bronie on your team over Wilt.
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by Full Court
A SMART coach would see that Wilt can perform on both ends of the court, while Bronie hasn't played good D in years. You'd be out of your mind to want Bronie on your team over Wilt.
Too bad even your hero Skip Bayless ranks Bron ahead of Wilt.
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by Full Court
Surely you don't think a sample size of a few cherry picked plays are representative of an era, do you? If you do, I'll be happy to post some videos of plays from that era that show tight defense. Lol.
But for the sake of discussion, let's assume you're right for a second. Who in today's game do you see effectively defending against Wilt?
Cherry picked sample size? You do know the guy who posted that vid spends hours watching tape from every big name player from every era right?
Even if you want to ignore his vid, there is a different guy who watched every game from every decade and came to a similar conclusion, refs were super whistle happy when he watched a game from the 60s.
As for your last question, hard to say. Almost impossible to answer that question since Wilt played 60 years ago, but from the tape I've seen he seems super athletic which is obviously a plus, but his post moves do seem a bit awkward, someone like Kareem had a more refined post game.
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Re: If Embiid can score 30 ppg and win a scoring title...
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Cherry picked sample size? You do know the guy who posted that vid spends hours watching tape from every big name player from every era right?
Even if you want to ignore his vid, there is a different guy who watched every game from every decade and came to a similar conclusion, refs were super whistle happy when he watched a game from the 60s.
As for your last question, hard to say. Almost impossible to answer that question since Wilt played 60 years ago, but from the tape I've seen he seems super athletic which is obviously a plus, but his post moves do seem a bit awkward, someone like Kareem had a more refined post game.
I don't disagree that Kareem had a more refined game, but Chamberlain's awkward looking moves were obvious effective. We got to see Wilt and Kareem match up head to head. I don't see many of the current centers stopping Kareem either.
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