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Old 02-05-2008, 07:06 AM   #16
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

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nets are probably stuck with his monster contract.

and why would they want to trade him for a "decent scoring swingman", when he is, all hate aside, still more than decent scoring swingman? last time i checked, 20 ppg guys don't grow on trees.
and it's not like someone's going to give nets the same quality younger guy with smaller contract in exchange for VC.

Exactly what I was thinking when I came into this thread.

There aren't many more players that are more 'decent' right now than Vince Carter, you know?

Also, it's exactly as Sharas said. No one is going to trade you a player of the same quality as Vince, except younger and with a smaller contract for Carter now. It's just not going to happen.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:29 AM   #17
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

The only team that would think about taking on VC right now would be NY... they're the only team in the league that likes accumulating bad contracts.

Randolph
Balkman

or

Curry
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:32 AM   #18
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

Here you go. Clear out all the Nets contracts ready for when they move to Brooklyn

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2986~3194~2997~383~509~2782~73 9~136~1006~429&teams=17~17~17~17~17~17~17~18~18~18 &te=&cash=
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:58 AM   #19
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

Would a VC for Jamaal Crawford trade be fair?
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:01 AM   #20
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Would a VC for Jamaal Crawford trade be fair?

no
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:02 AM   #21
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

teams should know by now not to give anyone in their 30's more than a 3-4 year contract. Least of all a swingman who relies on his athleticism. He looks heavier to me. Just a shame that these guys rely solely on their athletic ability and don't do much of anything to develop their minds.........

With that said, I would trade him straight up for Larry Hughes
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:16 AM   #22
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

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The only team that would think about taking on VC right now would be NY... they're the only team in the league that likes accumulating bad contracts.

Randolph
Balkman

or

Curry
Jones
Balkman

could be fair.
rumor has it that the nets already quashed a zbo for vc trade.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:21 PM   #23
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

Since Memphis like trading players what about?


VC and Jamaal Magloire for....Kwame,Connelly, and Gay
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:23 PM   #24
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

No way in hell would Memphis trade Gay for Carter. And they're trying to lose salary, not take on overpriced, injury prone, past their prime players.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:36 PM   #25
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

Are you serious? you actually thought I meant that....wow. Im going to put at the end of my sarcastic post that Im being sarcastic.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:38 PM   #26
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

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Since Memphis like trading players what about?


VC and Jamaal Magloire for....Kwame,Connelly, and Gay
pretty sure that a newly traded player cannot be traded again in a package for a certain time (bound to extend past the trade deadline at this point), only in a 1 for 1 trade (maybe picks and cash?)
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:33 PM   #27
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

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Because if you can still put up over 20 ppg, over 5 apg and almost 6 rpg in your 10th season after many injuries and 25-28 ppg, 5-6 rpg, 4-5 apg and 40-43 3P% seasons you suck.


Not to mention when your clearly the sole reason your teams losing
cuz you don't play defense, your knees are completely shot, so your only effective when your jump shot is falling. Your only getting 15 to 20 attempts because the rest of the roster stinks and your a miserable shell of your former self. That also plays a heavy role. Stop stat crunching doesn't tell the whole story
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:36 PM   #28
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

Mabye the Grizzlies will trade Rudy Gay for Vince Carter....




as already mentioned, nobody wants VC's contract.

It's like asking, why don't the Heat just trade Shaq for a servicable big man?
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:52 PM   #29
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Default Re: Why can't nets just trade VC for a decent scoring swingman?

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To trade someone, there has to be a market for them. Who wants Vince Carter and the $50 million or whatever it is left on his contract right now, given what you just (accurately) said about him?

They aren't going to get quality in return for him. They can't unload him for nothing because he doesn't have an expiring contract, so it doesn't help a bad team, and for the reasons you just said he isn't going to help a good team win a title.

I'm sure they'd love to trade him if they could improve their team by doing so. How's that gonna happen?

They need to start essentially from scratch. Kidd's window has closed. The near-triple double average looks nice but he isn't anywhere near what he was five years ago. Jefferson's a nice third or fourth wheel, I'd keep him long-term. Vince has to go...but how are you trading him?

Why not trade with the Bulls? Trade Ben Wallace for Vince Carter.
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Doesn't address ANY of the bulls problems, and gives the Nets an even more useless overpaid stiff. The only remote benefit being that his contract ends a year earlier.
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