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Old Yesterday, 12:56 PM   #1
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Default Jordan-before-Pippen vs Shaq-before-Kobe

Which player was better?
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Old Yesterday, 12:59 PM   #2
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Jordan, easily. Shaq just had far and away the better team. Penny Hardaway before his injuries was a bonafide franchise player and potential ATG. He was on the Magic in Shaq's second season.

Jordan had MVPs, DPOYs, scoring titles, and a host of all NBA selections to his name. Don't think Shaq even made an all NBA team until his 4th season.
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first shaq coming out of the gates
then jordan doing his triple double thing
then jordan winning three championships
then shaq while jordan played baseball
then jordan winning another three championships
then kobe takes over

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Jordan, easily. Shaq just had far and away the better team. Penny Hardaway before his injuries was a bonafide franchise player and potential ATG. He was on the Magic in Shaq's second season.

Jordan had MVPs, DPOYs, scoring titles, and a host of all NBA selections to his name. Don't think Shaq even made an all NBA team until his 4th season.
Shaq was all-NBA 3rd team in his sophomore year.
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Shaq was all-NBA 3rd team in his sophomore year.

My mistake. Got confused because he didn't make a first team until 1998.

But yes, Shaq was a perennial 3rd teamer during the first years of his career, making one 2nd team. Crazy how stacked the center position was.
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Yes, Hakeem, Shaq, DRob, Ewing, Zo, Mutombo man I wish I saw those guys I mean I saw old Shaq Zo and Deke but that isn't the same
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Default Re: Jordan-before-Pippen vs Shaq-before-Kobe

before kobe turned into a top 10 player


1992-93 Magic = Lottery
1993-94 Magic = Swept ( 1st round )
1994-95 Magic = Swept ( finals )
1995-96 Magic = Swept ( 3rd round )
1996-97 Lakers = Lost 1-4 ( 2nd round
1997-98 Lakers = Swept ( 3rd round )
1998-99 Lakers = Swept ( 2nd round )



before pippen turned into a top 10 player


1984-85 Bulls = lost 1-3 ( 1st round )
1985-86 Bulls = Swept ( 1st round )
1986-87 Bulls = Swept ( 1st round )
1987-88 Bulls = lost 1-4 ( 2nd round )
1988-89 Bulls = lost 2-4 ( 3rd round )
1989-90 Bulls = lost 3-4 ( 3rd round )







both sucked sh*t
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Default Re: Jordan-before-Pippen vs Shaq-before-Kobe

Both set the league on fire the moment they stepped on the court. It's close but I would give the nod to MJ.
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Yes, Hakeem, Shaq, DRob, Ewing, Zo, Mutombo man I wish I saw those guys I mean I saw old Shaq Zo and Deke but that isn't the same
The second tier centers like Brad Daugherty, Vlade Divac and Rik Smits would be top tier today.

Makes it that much more amazing that Jordan dominated an era of legit bigs with Cartwright and Longley as his centers.
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before kobe turned into a top 10 player


1992-93 Magic = Lottery
1993-94 Magic = Swept ( 1st round )
1994-95 Magic = Swept ( finals )
1995-96 Magic = Swept ( 3rd round )
1996-97 Lakers = Lost 1-4 ( 2nd round
1997-98 Lakers = Swept ( 3rd round )
1998-99 Lakers = Swept ( 2nd round )



before pippen turned into a top 10 player




1984-85 Bulls = lost 1-3 ( 1st round )
1985-86 Bulls = Swept ( 1st round )
1986-87 Bulls = Swept ( 1st round )
1987-88 Bulls = lost 1-4 ( 2nd round )
1988-89 Bulls = lost 2-4 ( 3rd round )
1989-90 Bulls = lost 3-4 ( 3rd round )







both sucked sh*t

Lol, Pippen wasn't top ten in the first few Bulls NBA titles.

Shaq carried Kobe in their first three titles, not the other way around...

Deal with it
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Lol, Pippen wasn't top ten in the first few Bulls NBA titles.

Shaq carried Kobe in their first three titles, not the other way around...

Deal with it




some say pippen was the 1991 finals mvp

dude shut down magic johnson after he blasted MJ with p*ss in game 1



1991 - 18/7/6
1992 - 21/8/7


1991 playoffs - 22/9/6
1992 playoffs - 20/9/7

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some say pippen was the 1991 finals mvp

dude shut down magic johnson after he blasted MJ with p*ss in game 1

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some say pippen was the 1991 finals mvp

dude shut down magic johnson after he blasted MJ with p*ss in game 1



1991 - 18/7/6
1992 - 21/8/7


1991 playoffs - 22/9/6
1992 playoffs - 20/9/7

Jesus Christ bro. MJ was arguably at his peak in the 1991 Finals.
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1991 playoffs - 22/9/6
1992 playoffs - 20/9/7

dont know any universe where this isnt a top 10 player


especially when he has all nba defense added in the mix and is running PG on offense while defending PG/SG/SF/PF on defense
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