Shaq is the best since 2000. 4 rings, 3 finals MVP's, a scoring title, 2nd in DPOY voting in 2000, 38 and 16.7 rpg in the 2000 finals plus similar numbers the next 2 years.
1. Lebron James
2. Tim Duncan
3. Shaq
4. Kobe
5. Jason Kidd
6. Dirk Nowinski
7. Yao Ming
8. Steve Nash
9. Tracy Mcgrady
10.Gilbert Arenas
If Lebron had a career ending injury right now, what would his legacy be? Nothing more than potential, because he has yet to accomplish anything of worth in the basketball world. Lebron has accomplished so little, it is a disgrace to even put him on it when has no rings, mvps, finals mvps, no dpoys, no anything.
The list is as follows:
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
The rest of the list is debatable, but these 2 men have LED (been batman, not robin) their teams to 8 of the last 9 titles, 4 each, with each of them having 3 finals mvps, and many other accomplishments.
Based on what he has accomplished thus far, Lebron is most emphatically not top ten of the best of the best since Jordan left (a rhyming cleft).
Payton's prime was before 2000 and Grant Hill was injured for most of the decade. Ben Wallace should be included for his rebounds, blocks, and DPOY awards. If you include Steve Nash in this list(which he should be), then you have to include Big Ben as well.
Shut up. LeBron #1? What exactly puts him over multiple title winners like Duncan, Shaq or Kobe?
People need to get over the fact a ring does not make the player "one of the best players" ever. Lebron has never won a ring, but he is easily better than the stars that have. Robert Horry has like what 7 rings? I agree with you winning a ring is important, but we shouldn't make it the be-all end-all factor in determining who's the best and who's not. There are way too many factors that go into making a player a star. Lebron is the best in my book because he runs a team like Stockton, shoots like Jordan, rebounds like a forward, and passes like a guard. No other player in NBA has this kind of game. The closest is Duncan and Kobe. No one else.
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Payton's prime was before 2000 and Grant Hill was injured for most of the decade. Ben Wallace should be included for his rebounds, blocks, and DPOY awards. If you include Steve Nash in this list(which he should be), then you have to include Big Ben as well.
Gary Payton's best seasons were from 1998-2003, (that's four seasons in the 2000's as the best or second best PG in the league)
I don't know what I was thinking with Hill.
Steve Nash is a two time MVP. Being DPOY of the Year and MVP are not hand-in-hand. Beg Ben's first time receiving the award, he wasn't an All-Star or All-NBA team member
People need to get over the fact a ring does not make the player "one of the best players" ever. Lebron has never won a ring, but he is easily better than the stars that have. Robert Horry has like what 7 rings? I agree with you winning a ring is important, but we shouldn't make it the be-all end-all factor in determining who's the best and who's not. There are way too many factors that go into making a player a star. Lebron is the best in my book because he runs a team like Stockton, shoots like Jordan, rebounds like a forward, and passes like a guard. No other player in NBA has this kind of game. The closest is Duncan and Kidd. No one else.
If Lebron's resume were Duncan's right now, you'd be stating that Lebron is inarguably the goat. But since it is Duncan with the goat like achievements, championships are not the "be all end-all."
This reasoning is so immature at best and harmful at worst, to yourself, the players, the game, and any poor fool who is taken in by such faulty reasoning.
Top 10 Players AFTER the Jordan era
