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Old 11-08-2007, 08:51 AM   #16
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Default Re: why did seattle pick jeff green?

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To me green will be nothing more than a role player. A childress type impact. AKA not worth Ray Allen.

Ray Allen would be a negative influence on the Sonics over the next few years. Not personality wise but basketball wise. He would win a few games here and there which would cost them a couple of slots in the draft.

They are still at least 1 or 2 elite talents from ever being competitive and they need those top picks to get them. Ray gets them the 5th or 6th pick instead of 1 or 2(cant bank on the lottery bailing you out all the time). Sometimes you have to get really bad before you can be great.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:04 AM   #17
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maybe Presti is so smart he is showcasing Wally, and Wilkins, so some team might be dumb enough to trade for them, and thus giving Seattle even more draft picks to rebuild with.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:10 AM   #18
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To me green will be nothing more than a role player. A childress type impact. AKA not worth Ray Allen.
You under-rate Green's ability. Green will be a Andres Nocioni-type player.

Good enough to a be "complimentary starter" on most teams where as Josh Childress is a "top of the bench" guy pretty much any place he goes.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:03 AM   #19
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Jeff Green is alrite.


He's actually a pretty good defender for those who said he wasn't. Great All-Around player. He isn't getting much time though. He plays the 3 and the 4, Wally/Damien taking up time at the 3, and Collison/Wilcox work the 4...
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:28 AM   #20
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Default Re: why did seattle pick jeff green?

I think Green was a bad pick. Trading Allen for #5 was a great decision - the Sonics were right to all-out build around Durant. But to my eyes Green and Durant are both SFs. I don't think they should have drafted another guy at the same position unless he was on another teir compared to all the other available draftees.

Durant doesn't have the strength to guard NBA PFs, and Green doesn't have the height. So how do you play them together? Are they really seeing Durant as a SG longterm?

Yi would have been a better pick. At 7' and with a good frame, he projects to be a real PF, and seems to be on a higher talent level than Green.

Noah would have also been a better pick. He can provide the defense and intensity that Durant doesn't.

With that said, I haven't watched the Sonics enough yet for my opinions to be very valuable to anyone.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:29 AM   #21
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Noah at #5? THAT would be a waste of a pick.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:32 AM   #22
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people are judging green on stats here. watch him play. he's good.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:38 AM   #23
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In the game I saw he looked real good.

Very athletic and coordinated.

Don't know how he'll turn out but definently high lottery talent.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:47 AM   #24
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Jeff Green is alrite.


He's actually a pretty good defender for those who said he wasn't. Great All-Around player. He isn't getting much time though. He plays the 3 and the 4, Wally/Damien taking up time at the 3, and Collison/Wilcox work the 4...

Yeah.

He doesn't fit right now, but he was just the best player left. The only other player I'd consider picking at that point would be Brewer, but then you'd have the same problems.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:19 PM   #25
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Default Re: why did seattle pick jeff green?

I hope the Sonics go 0-82...that way they have the best chance of getting Rose in the draft next year...can you imagine a team in 5 years with Rose and Durant?
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:57 PM   #26
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Only player still available at 5 that I had ranked higher than Jeff Green was Yi Jianlian. With that said I honestly think Green and Durant work better than Yi and Durant would have. Green is a far better defender than Yi is. Green also plays a lot stronger and is a better passer.

Green is a combo F is the mold of Andres Nocioni. Has the bulk (both weigh around 235-240 lbs) to take advantage of most SF's and the skill to take advantage of PF's on the offensive end. Both give great effort on defense with Green having the advantage of playing bigger than his 6'9" height because of his 7' wingspan.

Unless I'm mistaken the only reason Green is not seeing major minutes currently is because he sprained an ankle a few weeks ago. By the end of the season I doubt anyone questions why Green went fifth overall.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:05 PM   #27
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Only player still available at 5 that I had ranked higher than Jeff Green was Yi Jianlian. With that said I honestly think Green and Durant work better than Yi and Durant would have. Green is a far better defender than Yi is. Green also plays a lot stronger and is a better passer.

Green is a combo F is the mold of Andres Nocioni. Has the bulk (both weigh around 235-240 lbs) to take advantage of most SF's and the skill to take advantage of PF's on the offensive end. Both give great effort on defense with Green having the advantage of playing bigger than his 6'9" height because of his 7' wingspan.

Unless I'm mistaken the only reason Green is not seeing major minutes currently is because he sprained an ankle a few weeks ago. By the end of the season I doubt anyone questions why Green went fifth overall.
did you happen to see the reverse he hit the other night (against denver i think)? didn't look possible from where he took off but that arm just kept extending inspector-gadget-like, and he hit it. i like his game. he plays with good focus and intensity. defends. gets to the rim. seems unselfish. reminds me a little of young pippen with more size and less hops.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:08 PM   #28
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I hated on Green a little bit going into the draft, but without good reason. He looks like he'll fit really well into a team concept. Has lots of positives in his game and has good physical tools.
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did you happen to see the reverse he hit the other night (against denver i think)? didn't look possible from where he took off but that arm just kept extending inspector-gadget-like, and he hit it. i like his game. he plays with good focus and intensity. defends. gets to the rim. seems unselfish. reminds me a little of young pippen with more size and less hops.
I did see that reverse. It was a really impressive play.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:10 PM   #30
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Green is a far better defender than Yi is.
Then he must be Bowen/Artest elite, beacuse Yi has done a really nice job, excluding the first game against Orlando. Yi's quick, athletic, and has been blocking 2 shots a game already. I'd go with Green is slightly better, until I see more results from him.
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