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Old 09-22-2007, 11:19 AM   #16
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Default Re: Deron has some words for Kirilenko

Deron Williams is right. Work hard.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:19 AM   #17
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this isnt about ak taking more shots at all, since when has he ever been a overly offensive minded player? what kirilenko feels is that he is not being used correctly and has fallen out of favor by sloan and the system, and hes right, he isnt being used properly at all, ak is a dominant player when healthy and last season became an after thought in the jazz offense, its not utahs fault, after last years success theyd be silly not to keep with whats working for them but the time has well and truely come for kirilenko to be traded.

utah needs to move ak at almost any cost
ak badly needs a new team(then we will see a dominant ak)
williams needs to shut the **** up
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:21 AM   #18
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so is DWill admitting that he froze AK47 out of the series? wow.

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Old 09-22-2007, 11:42 AM   #19
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so is DWill admitting that he froze AK47 out of the series? wow.

Well he did in a way, and i understand why. AK isn't the best shooter or ball handler on the team (he dribbles WAY to high), so when Deron sees him open on the perimeter he is reluctant to pass it to him. Andrei feels more comfortable catching the ball in the paint because his natural position is the PF. When he has the ball on the perimeter he either shoots it (airball), drives the ball in (turnover), or tries to make a pass that should only be made from the paint. Most of the time, it's just not pretty. A lot of the problem comes because Deron doesn't trust AK enough with the ball, another part of it comes from AK trying to do too much because Deron doesn't trust him, and the last part comes from Sloan playing AK out of position. Overall, the chemistry on this team right now isn't very good. They need to talk to each other to resolve problems like this rather than keep them built up inside and let them erupt like this... Despite all of this though, I'm extremely excited for the start of the season.

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Old 09-22-2007, 11:54 AM   #20
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:58 AM   #21
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Why would he say such a thing? AK is probably gonna cry again.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:00 PM   #22
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Good for Deron for saying how he feels. Ak needs to stop crying and work for what he wants.

side note: I always liked Harpring. Good work ethic.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:00 PM   #23
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Well he did in a way, and i understand why. AK isn't the best shooter or ball handler on the team (he dribbles WAY to high), so when Deron sees him open on the perimeter he is reluctant to pass it to him. Andrei feels more comfortable catching the ball in the paint because his natural position is the PF. When he has the ball on the perimeter he either shoots it (airball), drives the ball in (turnover), or tries to make a pass that should only be made from the paint. Most of the time, it's just not pretty. A lot of the problem comes because Deron doesn't trust AK enough with the ball, another part of it comes from AK trying to do too much because Deron doesn't trust him, and the last part comes from Sloan playing AK out of position. Overall, the chemistry on this team right now isn't very good. They need to talk to each other to resolve problems like this rather than keep them built up inside and let them erupt like this... Despite all of this though, I'm extremely excited for the start of the season.

Yeah... or AK dribbles it around for a while, and allows the defense to get set back up, which ends up leading to forced shots.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:06 PM   #24
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interesting. Always liked that Harpring fellow. what is he a second year player?
Lol, hes 32.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:47 PM   #25
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Yea, I've never heard of him either.

I like the fact that Deron seems to be taking the team over, showing some leadership. I know Deron was upset with a couple of players after they lost to SA in the playoffs. I guess AK was one of them.
yeah, I think he was mad at AK and Memo
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:49 PM   #26
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yeah, I think he was mad at AK and Memo

when i think of the 07 Jazz i think of Memo hitting some clutch 3's every single time i watched that team. he saved them so many times that its amazing.

once Deron matures he's gonna be a truly great leader.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:52 PM   #27
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A lot of the problem comes because Deron doesn't trust AK enough with the ball, another part of it comes from AK trying to do too much because Deron doesn't trust him, and the last part comes from Sloan playing AK out of position.
good simple breakdown. I do have to say that AK is botha better shooter and handler than he is being given credit last year (esp if you look at his career not just last year). Again, hes a 4 who is versatile enough to play the 3 (or even the 2, where he started the end of the previous season). Its be like if the pistons started Prince at the 4 and then wondered why he wasnt as effective and didnt enjoy his role with the team. Add that to fan (and organization) expectations for a max money player and shake.

I do agree I think he was less effective last year (obviously) because he was trying too hard or thinking about it too much, rather than letting the game come to him. HE was pretty damn solid in the GS series IMO.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:54 PM   #28
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when i think of the 07 Jazz i think of Memo hitting some clutch 3's every single time i watched that team. he saved them so many times that its amazing.

once Deron matures he's gonna be a truly great leader.
yeah he did especially pre-all star break. My only modern pistons jersey and he broke my heart. I can still recall a game against SA (from the 05-06 season) where he flushed a putback at the buzzer to win the game. HEs got balls, and is a smart and athletic player (he can dribble a soccer ball over his tall ass head and catch it on his heel - falking Euros)
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Good for Deron. He's a good leader.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:21 PM   #30
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Not sure if blasting your teammates in the media, saying they don't work enough on their shot so I won't pass it to him = good leader.
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