as in, jordan straight out of NC was better then Kobe right now. as in jordan 1st, 2nd,3rd year was better then Kobe right now, which is wrong.
watch your words and I wont have to correct you
Yes, that's what I said. 1987-1989 Jordan was better than Kobe has even been, including right now. Evidence forthcoming. Not straight out of NC -- he was a rookie, and very raw.
....though the GAP between them is not as huge as some Jordan homers (Loki) make it out to be.
Sorry, but the gap is considerable. Not enormous, but there is about a 15-20% difference between them as players imo. That is, on the average day, Kobe has about 80-85% of the impact of Jordan. On a great day, he's about 90% of "great day" Jordan. And on Kobe's absolute best days (e.g., 81 pts, 62 etc.), he's about 92-95% of peak Jordan. Speaking of overall impact on games here, mind you, not strictly scoring, where peak Kobe is more explosive than peak Jordan due to his range.
Your problem is that you're counting a season where he only played 18 games and was rehabbing from a broken foot while playing 22 mpg as equal to a regular full season. Take that season out -- or even just add up the totals as opposed to the per game averages and divide it by total games played -- and tell me what you get.
Your problem is that you're counting a season where he only played 18 games and was rehabbing from a broken foot while playing 22 mpg as equal to a regular full season. Take that season out -- or even just add up the totals as opposed to the per game averages and divide it by total games played -- and tell me what you get.
Thanks.
If you can't go by season average, you have to go by games played since you can't take away what games he did play:
Here are the stats by games played(345):
32.6 PPG/6.2 RPG/5.9 APG/2.8 SPG/1.2 BPG- 51.1 FG%, 20.2 3 PT%, 84.8 FT%. It's different than both of ours.
Look, I'm Jordan fan & a Bryant fan and the gap isn't as great as people make it out to be. Kobe is the "anti-Mike" in the fact that non of Jordan's true homers like Bryant. I don't know why this dislike for Kobe exist, but it does nonetheless.
Taking numbers out of the equation is the first thing one must do when comparing Bryant and Jordan. If there ever was a true "Baby Jordan" it would be Kobe. His play on the court reminds most of Jordan's game more than any player in the history of the league. He is not the complete player Jordan is, but that is not a short coming. Many Jordan fans like to scream that "Kobe is not Jordan", but I say who is? To be regarded by many, (and many of his peers) as the greatest equivalent to the consensus Greatest Player Of All Time is something to be proud of.
If you can't go by season average, you have to go by games played since you can't take away what games he did play:
Here are the stats by games played(345):
32.6 PPG/6.2 RPG/5.9 APG/2.8 SPG/1.2 BPG- 51.1 FG%, 20.2 3 PT%, 84.8 FT%. It's different than both of ours.
Yeah, but much closer to mine than yours (which is why I advised you to do this). And again, you're counting 15 games where he played ~22 mpg and was rehabbing from a broken foot. It's pretty disingenuous to count the '86 season at all, really, since he only played 3 games at normal minutes before he broke his foot.
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