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Old 07-07-2007, 03:26 PM   #1
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Default Official #17 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

The voting for the #16 greatest player of All-Time is over. Now that we got the top-ten out the way, these next few additions should be interesting. The third of many Celtics to make the list, “Hondo” John Havlicek gets in at number 16.

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ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time

1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
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11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pettit
16. John Havlicek


Let’s get into the ‘NUMBER 17’ spot ?


Some players to consider:


Karl Malone
George Mikan
Isiah Thomas
Rick Barry
John Stockton
Walt Frazier



#16 Greatest Player Voting
John Havlicek = 15 votes
Karl Malone = 9 votes
George Mikan = 3 votes
Kobe Bryant = 2 votes
Rick Barry = 1 votes
Isiah Thomas = 1 vote
David Robinson = 1 vote
John Stockton = 1 vote
Steve Nash = 1 vote
Scottie Pippen = 1 vote


Official #16 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

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Old 07-07-2007, 03:27 PM   #2
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Karl Malone..I've been saying his name for a couple of rounds now...
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:32 PM   #3
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George Mikan.
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:34 PM   #4
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George Mikan.

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Karl Malone.
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:49 PM   #6
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As much as I hate to say...#17 belongs to Karl Malone. He brought white trash back to the NBA.
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:53 PM   #7
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It's really a toss up between Mikan and Malone... I guess I'll choose Malone for the simple fact of his longevity.
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11. Jerry West 12. Julius Erving 13. Moses Malone 14. Elgin Baylor 15. Bob Pettit 16. John Havlicek

All these players ahead of Karl Malone and Kobe Bryant?

Another reason why this stupid subject needs to die.

The majority of ISH members have NO clue when it comes to pro basketball. Sad.
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:03 PM   #10
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It's got to be George Mikan this time. The impact he had on the game was enormous. He was the leagues first dominant big man and legitimate superstar. He completely revolutionized the sport, altering the rulebooks forever. Take college, for instance. At Depaul, his dominant shot blocking led to the goaltending rule. As a professional, the widening of the lane (known as the "Mikan rule") and the introduction of the shotclock are attributed to him. In fact, the latter has an interesting story attached to it.

During the 1950-1951 season, the Pistons and Lakers played perhaps the strangest game in league history. After taking a 19-18 lead, the Pistons just passed the ball around for the rest of the game, making no attempt to initiate their offense. Why'd they do it? Mikan already had 15, and they were afraid he'd lead the Lakers back into the game. For a lead against Mikan's team didn't come easy, and keeping it was even harder. That's how much other teams respected him. He was extraordinarily tough, too.

He sustained ten broken bones, and often played through those injuries. In fact, during the Western division finals against the Rochester Royals Mikan fractured his leg. That wasn't enough to stop him, however. He still averaged about 20 points per game that series. Unfortunately, due his the injury, they lost the series, marking the only year in which the Lakers failed to win a championship(during the six year dynasty).

Many simply write him off due to the era he played in. To me, though, I see that as a mistake. So what if they weren't as athletic back then. If todays top tier athletes were transported back to Mikan's time they would all appear significantly less athletic. Why? Simple, because there have been such advancements in nutritional and physical training. It's not as if humans have evolved to the point where they are vastly superior to those of sixty years ago. Also, the player would not have all of todays little tricks at his disposal(jumpshot, revolutionary dribbling moves, etc.). It's impossible to say how any of todays players would fair in Mikan's era. Similarly, we cannot assume Mikan would be unable to play today, as he would have developed entirely differently in our era. For all we know, he may still be able to rise to the top, as he did so many years ago. The point is, it's all speculation, which cannot be proven true or false. And because of that, it only makes sense to stick to the facts and compare players to their peers, and Mikan's domination of his peers is equal to all the other all time greats domination of theirs.

C'mon people the guy won seven total titles(counting pre NBA leagues) as the undisputed most dominant player of his era. Refresh my memory, how many did Karl Malone win again?

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Best: Karl Malone

Greatest: George Mikan
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Isiah Thomas.
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Karl Malone,
though, if I might add, I'd probably vote for Kobe on this spot in 5 years, but his only 2 thirds through his career, so he's hard to vote on an all time list, as we're not only talking prime here.
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11. Jerry West 12. Julius Erving 13. Moses Malone 14. Elgin Baylor 15. Bob Pettit 16. John Havlicek

All these players ahead of Karl Malone and Kobe Bryant?

Another reason why this stupid subject needs to die.

The majority of ISH members have NO clue when it comes to pro basketball. Sad.
Just vote for your player and quit complaining.
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11. Jerry West 12. Julius Erving 13. Moses Malone 14. Elgin Baylor 15. Bob Pettit 16. John Havlicek

All these players ahead of Karl Malone and Kobe Bryant?

Another reason why this stupid subject needs to die.

The majority of ISH members have NO clue when it comes to pro basketball. Sad.
According to a groupie, ironic.
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