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Old 07-06-2007, 10:59 PM   #1
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Default Players from the Past are getting overrated

After seeing the "ISH ranking thread", I have seen this happen...


BEFORE:

No one knew the oldern players so they were always missed and underrated. They were underrated on this board. Few posters talked about the players from the past. And besides being past mosts time, many people dismissed them because everyone pictured them as "nonathletic" or whatever..



NOW:

Now players from the past really HAVE become slightly overrated, some more than others....Many are looking too much into their accomplishments and forget 1 thing about all players from the past...

Though I don't knock them from playing less athletic and having less basketball knowledge (Since if they played today with modern technology/knowledge they would be just as good)

but the fact that basketball wasn't as popular back then, and since it wasn't, less played, therefore they had less competition.



You just have to remember that, and always knock that from oldern players, so thats why I am saying now people on this board slightly overrate oldern players and forget that there wasn't that many basketball players back then so they had less competition.

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Old 07-06-2007, 11:03 PM   #2
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You have to be kidding.

What are you trying to convey.????
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:04 PM   #3
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also the best athletes in the 60's and 50's were more likely to play other sports as well... Mikan was not playing with the world's elite athlete's when he won his titles...
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:06 PM   #4
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What are you trying to convey.????

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Old 07-06-2007, 11:07 PM   #5
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You have to be kidding.

What are you trying to convey.????

i know right?
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:08 PM   #6
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:10 PM   #7
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Glove, come back to your thread and explain yourself.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:12 PM   #8
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Default Re: Players from the Past are getting overrated

Now with that said, many players from the past are still great...Their accomplisments still count. This competition thing isn't that big, but its still a knock down, if the matchup is close, you have to give the edge to the more modern player because of that.

And for George Mikan, that is a big knock, there weren't even "solid" bigmen back then, the competition for basketball was very low. Pettit, its a small knock, he only beat Bill when Bill was in his 2nd year, and then lost more times to Russell after Russell got better...
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:14 PM   #9
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You have to be kidding.

What are you trying to convey.????
I am just saying that players from the past are getting slightly overrated because people forget they played in an Era where not many played basketball.

Therefore, if less played or tried basketball, then they didn't play as much competition as today. Its not rocket science
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:20 PM   #10
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are you kidding me??? the ISH rankings are almost perfect.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:22 PM   #11
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I am just saying that players from the past are getting slightly overrated because people forget they played in an Era where not many played basketball.

Therefore, if less played or tried basketball, then they didn't play as much competition as today. Its not rocket science

Excuse me , what knowledge do you have of players from the late 60's , 70's ?

Are you going back to 50's ?

When I was on the playground late 60's early 70's there were players..
Basketball IQ is higher now then back then .. give me a break.
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Default Re: Players from the Past are getting overrated

he's right. quite a bit are getting overrated.

a guy like mikan is overrated. come on now. only your great-grandfather, if he were still alive, would jock that sh!t. mikan had the ugliest moves that would get rejected to pakistan if he tried them in the nba today. and he was slow as hell and moved like a stone.

from an accomplishment standpoint, of course, mikan dominated in his era. but that's it -- he dominated in his era. basketball was still so undeveloped. they were still learning how to start a fire or wondering how to use a wheel in the sport, so to speak. you can call him a great pioneer, but you don't wonder anymore than that.

from a skill and athletic standpoint, that fool would probably get busted by some of today's high school kids.
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Default Re: The Ranking Threads

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Excuse me , what knowledge do you have of players from the late 60's , 70's ?

Are you going back to 50's ?

When I was on the playground late 60's early 70's there were players..
Basketball IQ is higher now then back then .. give me a break.


Yeah since they already back then knew the exact and proper techniques to shoot and dribble...


And once again, I am not using that as a knock back, since if they played today they would have just as much knowledge...
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Default Re: Players from the Past are getting overrated

You really don't understand the past in reference to basketball.

Back in the day a guy with NBA skills could make the same money in Rucker Park. Tax free. I can think of quite a few that could very well have played in the NBA but chose to make that "cash" outside.

Then of course it was harder for blacks to get in the NBA because of colleges that wasn't gonna risk themselves with average Joes. You truly had to be a "star" type player to even get recognized.

But if reference to the L today, on most teams 5-6 players on any team would not have been good enough to play back then at all. At least 150 current NBA players are garbage by back-in-the-day-standards.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:25 PM   #15
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Actually I think older players get underrated moreso the overrated, but that normal. Beside the Wilts, and Wests and what not you don't really here about the Nate Thurmand's and the Nate Archibald's.
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