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Long Live The Process
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Tonight's game showed the weaknesses in the Warriors game style of focusing on 3pt shooting.
Lower fg%, unpredictability on rebounding situations and most importantly when the shots start to miss they can find themselves in a hole that they can't get themselves out of. It is a high risk/high reward game plan and we can now see the problems associated with it.
This whole playoffs has proven that although they have had a great year and will still win the championship, it is a stretch to say they are as good as the 96 Bulls.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Forget the '96 Bulls, I think the '14 Spurs would shit all over this Warriors squad.
I'm alone in this I think, but I think the Spurs this year was better than the Spurs 14. But the Spurs 14 peak at the right time tho. Spurs 16 was surprised by the Thunder. They had a couple of games that could've gone either way.
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Great college starter
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
This will still be one of the greatest seasons ever and they'll still go down as a historically great team, but these playoffs may have taken a bit of luster off their season. I know Curry was injured for the first 2 rounds, but even when he's played they've struggled a bit more than most people expected.
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Local High School Star
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Updated.
Bulls
72-10 Regular Season
15-3 Playoffs
87-13 Overall (.870)
Warriors
73-9 Regular Season
15-8 Playoffs
88-17 Overall (.838)
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Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Forget the records - the idea that this GS team is anywhere near as good as those Bulls were is a joke. They have been pushed to 7 games by two deeply flawed teams. The Bulls had no such flaws. What you have been seeing is their soft, jumpshooting style being exposed in the intensity and physicality of the playoffs.
They are not a "legitimate" 73 win team. In a normal era, in a normal league (league was weak this year), they win 63-67 games. Still great, yes, but one of many.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Forget the records - the idea that this GS team is anywhere near as good as those Bulls were is a joke. They have been pushed to 7 games by two deeply flawed teams. The Bulls had no such flaws. What you have been seeing is their soft, jumpshooting style being exposed in the intensity and physicality of the playoffs.
They are not a "legitimate" 73 win team. In a normal era, in a normal league (league was weak this year), they win 63-67 games. Still great, yes, but one of many.
We've been saying it all year. Now everyone sees it.
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GOAT
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Originally Posted by Poetry
Updated.
Bulls
72-10 Regular Season
15-3 Playoffs
87-13 Overall (.870)
Warriors
73-9 Regular Season
15-8 Playoffs
88-17 Overall (.838)
WE
STAY
WINNING
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GOAT
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Forget the records - the idea that this GS team is anywhere near as good as those Bulls were is a joke. They have been pushed to 7 games by two deeply flawed teams. The Bulls had no such flaws. What you have been seeing is their soft, jumpshooting style being exposed in the intensity and physicality of the playoffs.
They are not a "legitimate" 73 win team. In a normal era, in a normal league (league was weak this year), they win 63-67 games. Still great, yes, but one of many.
Originally Posted by Da_Realist
We've been saying it all year. Now everyone sees it.
You can't tell these kids a damn thing today. They gon learn the hard way doe.
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Verticle?
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
This combined record only became a thing after the Warriors broke the record.
The number to chase was always 72, and it was broken. If they win game 7, they're the best.
The Bulls never had to play anyone near as good as LeBron or Durant/Westbrook on their way to the title.
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Local High School Star
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
In a normal era, in a normal league (league was weak this year), they win 63-67 games.
I posted this in a different thread.
Originally Posted by Poetry
Golden State played 7 overtime games during the regular season.
They went 6-1 in OT.
They could have finished as high as 74-8. They also could have finished as low as 67-15.
Maybe this is just a very lucky 67 win team.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Regular season: GSW lost 9 of 82 games. Lost 2 of 41 home games. No back to back losses.
Playoffs: GSW lost 8 of 23 games. Lost 2 of 13 home games. Lost back-to-back games twice.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Originally Posted by plowking
This combined record only became a thing after the Warriors broke the record.
The number to chase was always 72, and it was broken. If they win game 7, they're the best.
The Bulls never had to play anyone near as good as LeBron or Durant/Westbrook on their way to the title.
C'mon. Shaq and Penny! The Magic was also considered to be one of the most talented teams in the league. They went to the finals the year prior.
You can say that Bulls never faced quality teams like the Warriors have faced. But in terms of talent? The Bulls faced some of the great centers in the 90s in 96 in a row. Mourning, Ewing, and Shaq. Overall they faced two 60+win teams.
With the Warriors they faced a great Thunder team who took out a great Spurs team. And they are facing the Cavs, and LBJ is putting up monster numbers atm.
With that said tho, the Warriors haven't dominated like I thought they would in the playoffs. It's pretty shocking to me after their dominance they had in the regular season. While the team itself is still great, these playoffs shows how limited to me Curry is a bit. I notice that with the series against Westbrook and Durant. Curry is still goat at shooting, but when the shot isn't falling, he is pretty limited it seems. He still draws attention from the offense tho. But he doesn't control the pace and the offense as good as other great PGs. He's still amazing.
Last edited by Micku; 06-17-2016 at 01:18 AM.
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Coach
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Originally Posted by plowking
This combined record only became a thing after the Warriors broke the record.
The number to chase was always 72, and it was broken. If they win game 7, they're the best.
The Bulls never had to play anyone near as good as LeBron or Durant/Westbrook on their way to the title.
A team's quality isn't just about their 2 best players. That would be a completely moronic view of things. Or in your case, heavy bias. And addressing the quality of player, '96 Shaq is every bit as great / dominant or more so than current LeBron.
Ranking the superstars faced in the post season between both teams:
Shaq / LeBron
KD
Penny / Westbrook
Ewing
GP / Harden / Kyrie
Kemp
Teams:
1) 64 - 18 Sonics
2) 60 - 22 Magic
3) 57 - 25 Cavaliers
4) 55 - 27 Thunder
5) 47 - 35 Knicks
6) 44 - 38 Rockets
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Local High School Star
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
Bulls
72-10 Regular Season
15-3 Playoffs
87-13 Overall (.870)
NBA Champions
Warriors
73-9 Regular Season
15-9 Playoffs
88-18 Overall (.830)
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soundcloud.com/agua-1
Re: 1995-96 Bulls went 87-13 (.870), best case scenario for GSW is 89-14 (.864)
As per usual, MJ fans are correct
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