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Old 04-29-2007, 08:34 PM   #16
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Also any trade the Lakers wanna do with Kobe has to be ok'ed with Kobe...I dont think Kobe would mind leaving if theydont wanna put a real team around him. Trade Kobe to the Rockets for T-Mac or to the Nuggets for AI or opt out and go to the Pistons.

If I was Kobe, I would be mad and frustrated yes. But he did say he wanted to be a Laker for life, so I would try to stick with the team but also tell the management could you put some better players around me so we can be a better team. And if nothing happens this summer and they just BS, then I would leave but I would wait to see how this summer/season go.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:36 PM   #17
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Because stars win championships by themselves right? Kobe can't win a ring with Smush, Luke, Kwame, Odom, he's worthless. Why would anyone want him, right? Moron.


oh so if he gets traded to another team their automatically going to have better players / coaching staff than what the lakers currently have??? seriously what team in the nba right now could aquire him through trade and and keep a strong roster to build around him, with no cap space or draft picks to improve their team, theres no way hes going to perform miracles
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:36 PM   #18
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Default Re: Trading Kobe just may be the best option for the Lakers...

It's not only Bynum This organization has just been too hesitant and unwilling to surround Kobe with right pieces.

They've ignored the Kobe Odom issue for too long. Those guys just don't fit. Why's that hard to understand? They're not a good team duo. Just wrong altogether.

FA's they've signed have been awful.

Very little trades.

Some decent FA's like Jannero Pargo could've been very helpful but the Lakers passed on them.

They passed on Baron Davis and Artest, both players thought it was a done deal. They passed on Kidd. Not that I mind that one but just saying.

Seems like their willingness to surround Kobe with talent hasn't realyl been out of this world to say the least.

As I said, the organization better have a long, serious and encouraging meeting with Kobe and they better start making moves.

He's getting impatient.
He said himself that the Lakers have a hard choice, to win now or be competitive 5 years from now.

Don't take Kobe for granted, that's another thing that needs to be said.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:37 PM   #19
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You do if you are the 76'ers. They traded Barkley when he was the second best player in the league and had had 3 MVP caliber seasons in a row losing out simply because of Magic, Jordan and team record. He then proceeded to win MVP and get the Suns to the Finals.

The 76er's got average players. The best leaving quickly. Resulting in cap space. They were God awful pieces of crap resulting in them getting the number 2 pick only 2 years after the trade. Too bad that pick was Shawn Bradley. They remained God awful pieces of crap resulting in them getting the number 1 pick three years after the number 2 pick. Allen Iverson. 9 years later they made the Finals. Trade Kobe and in 9 years the Lakers will make the Finals and lose. Then be first round playoff losers 5 years straight. Then their best player who was a result of them getting a high pick from sucking after trading Kobe will become disgruntled and leave.

We are talking about the Lakers who have only missed the playoffs 5 times in 60 years of ball. They don't rebuild.

I definetly see your point. But why waste his talent and get him mad. Just try to get a star in here this summer and solve the problem. Then we dont got to talk about if Kobe wants to leave or should leave.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:38 PM   #20
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oh so if he gets traded to another team their automatically going to have better players / coaching staff than what the lakers currently have??? seriously what team in the nba right now could aquire him through trade and and keep a strong roster to build around him, with no cap space or draft picks to improve their team, theres no way hes going to perform miracles
Wherever he goes to, it won't be as bad as over here. My point is that no one in the league could do anything with this roster.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:40 PM   #21
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IMO, right now the Lakers need to do something now. Yes I know thst obvious, but imo no one is untradeable except Kobe, so trade Lamar, Luke, and Bynum if you have to, but just get someone in here and LETS WIN NOW.
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It's not only Bynum This organization has just been too hesitant and unwilling to surround Kobe with right pieces.

They've ignored the Kobe Odom issue for too long. Those guys just don't fit. Why's that hard to understand? They're not a good team duo. Just wrong altogether.

FA's they've signed have been awful.

Very little trades.

Some decent FA's like Jannero Pargo could've been very helpful but the Lakers passed on them.

They passed on Baron Davis and Artest, both players thought it was a done deal. They passed on Kidd. Not that I mind that one but just saying.

Seems like their willingness to surround Kobe with talent hasn't realyl been out of this world to say the least.

As I said, the organization better have a long, serious and encouraging meeting with Kobe and they better start making moves.

He's getting impatient.
He said himself that the Lakers have a hard choice, to win now or be competitive 5 years from now.

Don't take Kobe for granted, that's another thing that needs to be said.

They are cowards that don't know what do. They hesitate on everything then get desperate and **** up. Remember the 07 plan that made them refuse to give Antonio Daniels (would have fit in pretty well) 3 yrs instead of 2..then they go out and sign "half-pipe" for the full MLE.

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Old 04-29-2007, 08:52 PM   #23
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i dont think they need to make major changes, trade lamar odom, yes, use their MLE on some solid back ups, resign mihm and walton (solid bench players) they've got 19th pick in the draft, bynum should be ready to start full time, they could get it together quickly, ron artest wants out of the kings, so why not swap him with odom, it helps the lakers because they wont have to worry about him defending kobe and he is a good player, sure hes a headcase, but hes a good player who should fit in well

they've got

parker, farmer, sasha, walton, turiaf, kwame, mihm and bynum that gives them 8 good players, add kobe, artest(or whoever they get for odom) their #19 pick in the draft and a free agent like michael pietrus they will have good depth through 11 or 12 players, they just need to hope they dont get injuries
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:56 PM   #24
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Lakers need to get more ATHLETIC.
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:00 PM   #25
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they've got

parker, farmer, sasha, walton, turiaf, kwame, mihm and bynum that gives them 8 good players, add kobe, artest(or whoever they get for odom) their #19 pick in the draft and a free agent like michael pietrus they will have good depth through 11 or 12 players, they just need to hope they dont get injuries
Parker is good? Sasha? None of the guys you listed are good.
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:00 PM   #26
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i dont think they need to make major changes, trade lamar odom, yes, use their MLE on some solid back ups, resign mihm and walton (solid bench players) they've got 19th pick in the draft, bynum should be ready to start full time, they could get it together quickly, ron artest wants out of the kings, so why not swap him with odom, it helps the lakers because they wont have to worry about him defending kobe and he is a good player, sure hes a headcase, but hes a good player who should fit in well

they've got

parker, farmer, sasha, walton, turiaf, kwame, mihm and bynum that gives them 8 good players, add kobe, artest(or whoever they get for odom) their #19 pick in the draft and a free agent like michael pietrus they will have good depth through 11 or 12 players, they just need to hope they dont get injuries

your scenario doesn't improve them. in fact, with odom for artest, they are worse.
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parker, farmer, sasha, walton, turiaf, kwame, mihm and bynum that gives them 8 good players, add kobe, artest(or whoever they get for odom) their #19 pick in the draft and a free agent like michael pietrus they will have good depth through 11 or 12 players, they just need to hope they dont get injuries

bro, you need to watch the Lakers more.
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:01 PM   #28
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bro what crack are you on???? lakers to trade Kobe?? thier fukin franchise player. what they need to do is trade like 3 players , odom, walton, kwame or bynum for some better players. thats what they should do. or release a bunch of garbage and sign someone good. but trade kobe???? bro ure crazy
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bro what crack are you on???? lakers to trade Kobe?? thier fukin franchise player. what they need to do is trade like 3 players , odom, walton, kwame or bynum for some better players. thats what they should do. or release a bunch of garbage and sign someone good. but trade kobe???? bro ure crazy
He's not saying trade Kobe. He wants Odom, Bynum, etc. to be traded and bring in some real help. If the Lakers don't want to do that or are unable to surround him with a good supporting cast then they might as well trade Kobe and give him a better shot at winning a title and at the same time rebuild with Bynum, draft picks, cap space, youth.
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watching the game today you can see the team is 2 players from staying in that game... the lakers need one player who is a threat, besides lamar there is nobody that can be percieved as a consistient threat... if the lakers had that one player who can put the ball in the hole 45% of the time, kobe's life gets easier...secondly the need that one player that is a defensive pain in the butt and is happy doing it... with two players like that the lakers are in more games for the win than out... rashard lewis and jason kidd would fit the bill nicely... it fixes a couple problems right out of the box and gives the tema more depth... some of the lakers are not bad players just bad starters...
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