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Old 04-27-2007, 02:35 AM   #31
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Default Re: Is Shawn Marion the most overrated player in the league or what?

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Why would Howard need to play the 4? Diaw can do that.

Diaw doesnt have range on his jumper and cant finish like Marion or play defense like Marion, or rebound like Marion. PLus he doesnt play well when he is in the game with Amare.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:36 AM   #32
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20/10/ 2 steals and 1.5 blocks

hustle, energy, great man to man defence

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Old 04-27-2007, 02:37 AM   #33
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In last years playoff vs the Spurs Bowen started on Dirk but he finished gaurding Howard.

Limiting Marion is the key to the Suns? Yea okay, more like Nash and Amare.
Oh geez.

Chances are, Amare and Nash will get theirs not matter what, but if you take away Marion's offense, his defense, rebounding, and energy also go with it. You take away A LOT of the little things the Suns depend on to win series.

Amare averaged 37 and 10 on Duncan in that series, and Nash a good series, yet they still lost 4-1.

That make any easier for you?
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:38 AM   #34
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Jazz would probably trade AK for him, don't know how their salaries match up though.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:39 AM   #35
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Diaw doesnt have range on his jumper and cant finish like Marion or play defense like Marion, or rebound like Marion. PLus he doesnt play well when he is in the game with Amare.

All great points.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:39 AM   #36
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Default Re: Is Shawn Marion the most overrated player in the league or what?

He is a overrated defender. That's for sure
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:42 AM   #37
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He is a overrated defender. That's for sure
That's BS.

If there is one thing I can appreciate about Shawn Marion, it's his defense. He is easily the most versatile defender in the league. He can, and has guarded every postion but center. He blocks shots well for his size, and he is always top 5 in steals.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:42 AM   #38
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someone needs to seriously teach homegirl the correct form of shooting. send homegirl to the wnba please............
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:43 AM   #39
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Jazz would probably trade AK for him, don't know how their salaries match up though.
AK or Marion works.
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He is a overrated defender. That's for sure


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Old 04-27-2007, 02:43 AM   #41
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Oh geez.

Chances are, Amare and Nash will get theirs not matter what, but if you take away Marion's offense, his defense, rebounding, and energy also go with it. You take away A LOT of the little things the Suns depend on to win series.

Amare averaged 37 and 10 on Duncan in that series, and Nash a good series, yet they still lost 4-1.

That make any easier for you?

ok your right but Marion is still garbage in a half-court game, which is a big reason why they get owned in the playoffs by the Spurs. If the Suns cant fast break and run, Marion doesnt get involved and that takes him out of the game.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:44 AM   #42
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great man to man defence

kinda, he is much better as an off-the-ball defender that wreck havoc.

He is too weak to guard Odom and too slow to guard Bryant. He can guard a lot of guys but he gets scorched by people who attack his weaknesses.
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i wonder if the lakers will take marion for smush. even trade to me, though smush plays a little better defense.
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Default Re: Is Shawn Marion the most overrated player in the league or what?

If we dont win the championship this year...Marion should be on the first flight out of Phoenix. Im just frustrated with hom right now but if he causes us to lose a couple more times, this forum will be flooded with Marion hate topics.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:46 AM   #45
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Default Re: Is Shawn Marion the most overrated player in the league or what?

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That's BS.

If there is one thing I can appreciate about Shawn Marion, it's his defense. He is easily the most versatile defender in the league. He can, and has guarded every postion but center. He blocks shots well for his size, and he is always top 5 in steals.

That's what I don't understand. I also think his defense is overrated yet everyone say he's a DPOY candidate.
But everytime I watch someone has something that Marion can't defend.

Kobe has quickness, Odom has length, most PF's have size and strength.

So, who exactly does Marion defend efficently?
Because every time I watch him it does look like he can hold his own for a bit but then he just gets outmatched by either speed, length, power, whatever it is..

He's a great rebounder and very energetic, I will give him that.
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