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Old 04-26-2007, 03:46 PM   #16
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Default Re: Monta Ellis Named 2006-07 Most Improved Player

Kevin Martin got robbed.


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Old 04-26-2007, 03:46 PM   #17
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It should go to a player who - in the same minutes - somehow just made himself better.

Its a little harder to find

Actually, I thought that was precisely why the award should have gone to Deron Williams.

No problem with Ellis winning, though. Or Kevin Martin.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:53 PM   #18
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Actually, I thought that was precisely why the award should have gone to Deron Williams.

No problem with Ellis winning, though. Or Kevin Martin.


Exactly. If it is going to be for guys who improved the most in their 2nd season why not give it to Deron. But improvement in the 3rd season is more impressive than in the 1st. And Monta didn't get a lot of PT last season so it is more like he's just showing he can play this season. Not that he improved a lot. But I know for a fact that Kevin Martin worked like crazy in the offseason to improve. Their were articles I read in the Sac news paper about how he was in the gym every day, working on his shot and everything else. But because the Warriors made the FREAKING 8TH SEED Monta gets it? WTF!!!!!
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:04 PM   #19
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But because the Warriors made the FREAKING 8TH SEED Monta gets it?

Well, the rationale behind voting for Monta was probably linked to them making the playoffs despite losing Baron Davis for 20 games. Ellis filled in nicely in his absence.

It not like the Warriors don't have any other talent though. And they have a great coach. Kings don't have nearly as much talent and Muss has already been fired, yet the Kings were in the race for most of the season, in large part due to Martin's emergence.

As for Deron Williams, he went from draft mistake to top 5 pg (2nd in league in assists) in one season, all in fairly comparable minutes to year 1. People weren't saying much about Williams last summer; seven months later, he very nearly made the all star team.

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Old 04-26-2007, 04:06 PM   #20
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Exactly so I don't see why Ellis got it. It should've been either Martin or Williams.
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:08 PM   #21
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If the Kings didnt have Kevin Martin you would see how Monta Ellis got it.
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:09 PM   #22
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Actually if they switched teams Monta's stats would be worse and Kevin's PPG would be even higher because he'd be playing in Don Nelson's uptempo offense.
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Actually if they switched teams Monta's stats would be worse and Kevin's PPG would be even higher because he'd be playing in Don Nelson's uptempo offense.

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Actually if they switched teams Monta's stats would be worse and Kevin's PPG would be even higher because he'd be playing in Don Nelson's uptempo offense

Don't know about that. Warriors are loaded at the 2-3 spots; between J-Rich, Jackson, Sarunas, and Pietrus, there's not a lot of minutes to go around there. I would assume that Martin would break into the rotation over the last two, but I don't think he would start, and I don't think he would log more than about 20 minutes per game.

Hard to say what his numbers would look like.
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:25 PM   #25
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Don't know about that. Warriors are loaded at the 2-3 spots; between J-Rich, Jackson, Sarunas, and Pietrus, there's not a lot of minutes to go around there. I would assume that Martin would break into the rotation over the last two, but I don't think he would start, and I don't think he would log more than about 20 minutes per game.

Hard to say what his numbers would look like.


He is a better player than 3 of those guys and J-Rich was injured for a long time this season.

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Old 04-26-2007, 04:29 PM   #26
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WOW, I'm shocked that David Lee of NY wasn't even among the top 9 in those results . Pitiable.

may have been because of his injury problems? maybe because hes on the knicks?
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Congrats to Monta Ellis
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Had the warriors not make the playoffs the award would probably go to Kevin Martin. The media has gone way too far in overrating team achievement when comparing individual players.
I totally agree. I really thought that either Kevin or Deron would have won, and I thought Deron would have won because voters always factor in team success, so I'm surprised Ellis beat out Deron. You are right, if the warriors had missed playoffs, no way would Ellis win it.
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Old 04-26-2007, 05:23 PM   #30
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Wow i never thought it would end up like this? But hey what if something drastic happened? Maybe Nash or Kobe winning the MVP? lol
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