Looking back at the 2011-2014 Heat

[Crimsonrain777]

If we are interested at all consistency, calling 2011 Wade a top 3 NBA player (he was)...but then excusing him from bringing home a title because Lebron "wet the bed" by contributing 17/7/7, and Bosh 18/7, is the height of trolling.

I have never understood calling Wade a "superstar" (he is), but then completely ignoring the fact that he failed to win a ring in 2011 and 2014 with Lebron and Bosh.

And the most GLARING HOLE in that logic, 2015 Wade missing the playoffs completely in "the weakest conference of all time."

If "superstar" Wade (part of the most stacked team of all time) wins 41 of the 66 games he played in this season we make the playoffs...

Even if we lose every single game that Wade misses in 2015, all Wade would have to do is go 41-25 and we make the playoffs..

Instead, "superstar" Wade, a player that ISH repeatedly held out as being "harmed" by "Lebron ball" is allowed to miss the playoffs (in the weak East mind you) and not one of you who jumped up and down about "stacked" Heat said a word...

ive noticed two things from you so far.


1. you never consider specific situations when you try and argue the value of the numbers you present

and 2. your mind has been completely raped and warped by the trolls on this website and it's gotten to a point where you use their statements as the basis for your arguments


Wade hasn't been a superstar in a looooong time. To claim 2015 Wade is even close to that is disingenuous; and it shows that the only point of most of your post's is all just in attempt to one-up the trolls that have been giving you sleepless nights on ISH for god know's how long

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The very definition of a non-stacked team...

If a team loses a 7 games series because all three of any particular three players did not play well...that team is not stacked. Basically, one player does not play well (or more accurately like a league MVP) IT IS INCONSISTENT to call said team "stacked."

Again, the reason why the Dream Team (a team that was "stacked" in the purest forms) was so stacked was because it did not require ANY one person to play well in order for them to win a 7 game series.

ANY one individual on the Dream Team could break their legs and they would still win= stacked.

Now ask yourself, does the same hold true for the 2011 Miami Heat? The answer is no.

Which team was more stacked in your opinion ?

2001 lakers or 2013 spurs?

[Crimsonrain777]

The very definition of a non-stacked team...

If a team loses a 7 games series because all three of any particular three players did not play well...that team is not stacked. Basically, one player does not play well (or more accurately like a league MVP) IT IS INCONSISTENT to call said team "stacked."

Again, the reason why the Dream Team (a team that was "stacked" in the purest forms) was so stacked was because it did not require ANY one person to play well in order for them to win a 7 game series.

ANY one individual on the Dream Team could break their legs and they would still win= stacked.

Now ask yourself, does the same hold true for the 2011 Miami Heat? The answer is no.

i would say that represents a team with no depth. depth and stacked are two different things. the 2015 GSW had depth but they werent necessarily stacked since they only had one legitimate superstar. the 2011 Heat was stacked. two superstars, one all-star.that team smashed other teams in before they were even comfortable with each other


edit: also the dream team was stacked and it had depth and they played internationally. a team like the dream team could not have been constructed within the NBA so you can't really use them as your definition of stacked in the NBA. in the context of the regular NBA, i see no problem with calling the 2011 Heat team stacked

[FLDFSU]

ive noticed two things from you so far.


1. you never consider specific situations when you try and argue the value of the numbers you present

and 2. your mind has been completely raped and warped by the trolls on this website and it's gotten to a point where you use their statements as the basis for your arguments


Wade hasn't been a superstar in a looooong time. To claim 2015 Wade is even close to that is disingenuous; and it shows that the only point of most of your post's is all just in attempt to one-up the trolls that have been giving you sleepless nights on ISH for god know's how long

Wade was called a superstar (not just by trolls) in 2014. Wade was part of the most stacked team of all time (not just by trolls) in 2014.

To excuse 2015 Wade, a player that if Lebron was still a teammate of would be called a superstar, of missing the playoffs WHILE at the SAME TIME crying about the East being historically weak, is disingenuous.

Again, if Wade (and Bosh) was as good as ISH (not just trolls) called him in 2014, 2015 Wade (and Bosh) should be more than enough to make the playoffs. Conversely, if the East was as bad as ISH (not just trolls) makes it out to be...2015 Wade (and Bosh) should have made the playoffs.


But instead ISH (not just trolls) create this parallel universe where the East is "the weakest conference of all time" therefore Lebron's accomplishments in it doesn't count, YET a team that was a year ago called "the most stacked team of all time" and that retains superstar Wade and Bosh, is not sufficient to make the playoffs in said "weak" conference.

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Wade was called a superstar (not just by trolls) in 2014. Wade was part of the most stacked team of all time (not just by trolls) in 2014.

To excuse 2015 Wade, a player that if Lebron was still a teammate of would be called a superstar, of missing the playoffs WHILE at the SAME TIME crying about the East being historically weak, is disingenuous.

Again, if Wade (and Bosh) was as good as ISH (not just trolls) called him in 2014, 2015 Wade (and Bosh) should be more than enough to make the playoffs. Conversely, if the East was as bad as ISH (not just trolls) makes it out to be...2015 Wade (and Bosh) should have made the playoffs.


But instead ISH (not just trolls) create this parallel universe where the East is "the weakest conference of all time" therefore Lebron's accomplishments in it doesn't count, YET a team that was a year ago called "the most stacked team of all time" and that retains superstar Wade and Bosh, is not sufficient to make the playoffs in said "weak" conference.

There is no excuse for the 2015 Miami Heat season,

Bosh was injured, but they got Deng, Dragic, Whiteside and a youthful bench

Even when healthy they were losing

There is no other explanation for the drop off from 2014 to 2015

Lebron left, that is the how/when/where/why