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Old 04-16-2007, 05:00 AM   #1
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Default Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

I never watched the players who played before 1980, and neither have most people here.

1 - Larry Bird http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_stats.html
2 - Adrian Dantley http://www.nba.com/history/players/dantley_stats.html
3 - Dominque Wilkins http://www.nba.com/history/players/wilkins_stats.html
4 - Julius Erving http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=ERVINJU01
5 - Alex English http://www.nba.com/history/players/english_stats.html
6 - Scottie Pippen http://www.nba.com/playerfile/scottie_pippen/
7 - Bernard King http://www.nba.com/history/players/kingb_stats.html
8 - James Worthy http://www.nba.com/history/players/worthy_stats.html
9 - Mark Aguirre http://www.basketball-reference.com/...aguirma01.html
10 - Chris Mullin http://www.nba.com/history/players/mullin_stats.html

Others for consideration

Grant Hill http://www.nba.com/playerfile/grant_...eer_stats.html
Glen Rice http://www.nba.com/playerfile/glen_rice/index.html
Kiki Vandeweghe http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=VANDEKI01
Danny Manning http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=MANNIDA01
Marques Johnson http://www.basketball-reference.com/...johnsma01.html



My list is subject to be changed, I'm still trying to figure out who ranks where and see if I missed anyone.

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Old 04-16-2007, 05:04 AM   #2
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Default Re: Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

Lol...Im just gonna start off by saying you need to move Pippen up(A LOT)
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:04 AM   #3
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Default Re: Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

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Originally Posted by Chalkmaze
I never watched the players who played before 1980, and neither have most people here.

1 - Larry Bird http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_stats.html
2 - Adrian Dantley http://www.nba.com/history/players/dantley_stats.html
3 - Dominque Wilkins http://www.nba.com/history/players/wilkins_stats.html
4 - Julius Erving http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=ERVINJU01
5 - Alex English http://www.nba.com/history/players/english_stats.html
6 - Bernard King http://www.nba.com/history/players/kingb_stats.html
7 - Clyde Drexler http://www.nba.com/history/players/drexler_stats.html
8 - James Worthy http://www.nba.com/history/players/worthy_stats.html
9 - Scottie Pippen http://www.nba.com/playerfile/scottie_pippen/
10 - Mark Aguirre http://www.basketball-reference.com/...aguirma01.html

Others for consideration

Grant Hill http://www.nba.com/playerfile/grant_...eer_stats.html
Chris Mullen http://www.nba.com/history/players/mullin_stats.html
Glen Rice http://www.nba.com/playerfile/glen_rice/index.html
Kiki Vandeweghe http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=VANDEKI01


My list is subject to be changed, I'm still trying to figure out who ranks where and see if I missed anyone.

Finally, someone who put Scottie in his place...I hate when people try to act like Scottie Pippen is untouchable...thank you for you're unbiased thread....
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:04 AM   #4
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Default Re: Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

Pip all the way down at 9? Sure he didn't have the offensive prowess of King or Erving, but he's far and away the best defender on your list.

And I was always under the impression, having never watched him play, that Worthy was a PF. Albeit a very mobile PF, but a PF nonetheless.

EDIT: lol @ the two posts above mine.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:05 AM   #5
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Lol...Im just gonna start off by saying you need to move Pippen up(A LOT)

No way, him and Worthy are interchangeable, and thats about it....
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:07 AM   #6
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Default Re: Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

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Originally Posted by Chalkmaze
I never watched the players who played before 1980, and neither have most people here.

1 - Larry Bird http://www.nba.com/history/players/bird_stats.html
2 - Adrian Dantley http://www.nba.com/history/players/dantley_stats.html
3 - Dominque Wilkins http://www.nba.com/history/players/wilkins_stats.html
4 - Julius Erving http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=ERVINJU01
5 - Alex English http://www.nba.com/history/players/english_stats.html
6 - Bernard King http://www.nba.com/history/players/kingb_stats.html
7 - Clyde Drexler http://www.nba.com/history/players/drexler_stats.html
8 - James Worthy http://www.nba.com/history/players/worthy_stats.html
9 - Scottie Pippen http://www.nba.com/playerfile/scottie_pippen/
10 - Mark Aguirre http://www.basketball-reference.com/...aguirma01.html

Others for consideration

Grant Hill http://www.nba.com/playerfile/grant_...eer_stats.html
Chris Mullen http://www.nba.com/history/players/mullin_stats.html
Glen Rice http://www.nba.com/playerfile/glen_rice/index.html
Kiki Vandeweghe http://www.databasebasketball.com/pl...lkid=VANDEKI01


My list is subject to be changed, I'm still trying to figure out who ranks where and see if I missed anyone.


Dantley #2?

the guy never won anything

Worthy and Drexler should be higher
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:12 AM   #7
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Default Re: Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

Why am I not surprised that a Jazz fan put Dantley at two? This list has too many flaws, not worth my time.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:14 AM   #8
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Dantley #2?

the guy never won anything

Worthy and Drexler should be higher

Saying he never won anything is like saying you're the best employee at you're company and one the best in you're field of work, but you're company just isn't as big and powerful a major company somewhere else, Therefore you never get the recognition...It's not his fault they didn't win. Sh*t, the Piston's traded him away after the '88 Finals, and they won the next year...It was just bad luck...nothing more nothing less..
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:25 AM   #9
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I remember Adrian and he was sure as hell not #2. Id take almost everyone listed(even those listed as extras) over him. Not literally every single one. just almost. Everyone in the top 10 Hill and Mullin id take. Id put him over Rice and Kiki though. About even with Mark.

He was great....a great scorer in Utah. But he was closer to current Melo than to the legends hes listed over.

And there is exactly one player on the list who when you throw out the 70s(if its 1980 to now) is a better total player than Pippen. Nique has a case to be over him. Doctor J too. but no way in hell is he that low.

Its oddly ranked. If going by career then King is near the bottom. But if going by career Pippen is also ahead of all but Bird and Doc. And going by strictly peak....King is ahead of all but Bird and Doc.

Its as if there is no real steady reason for one guy being over another. Maybe just a Jazz fan propping up Adrian after he finally got his number retired and all he did got listed out for people who didnt know it to see.

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Old 04-16-2007, 05:29 AM   #10
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Default Re: Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

uh, clyde drexler was a shooting guard
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:29 AM   #11
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Default Re: Top 10 Small Forwards since 1980 (listed in order)

Clyde Drexler is not a small foward (alhough he played the position plenty times)

Kiki Vandeweghe and Jerome Kersey were the small fowards for Portland.

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Old 04-16-2007, 05:31 AM   #12
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It still hurts Manning didn't make the list.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:35 AM   #13
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It still hurts Manning didn't make the list.

Cool, thanks, I'll add him for consideration. I was actually hoping everyone would make their own lists, and we could argue amongst ourselves.

Although he was injured a lot, have to put him way down the list, although had he have been more healthy he would have been much higher.

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Old 04-16-2007, 05:39 AM   #14
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There was a big argument among us when I was in chicago about if Manning would be better than Pippen or not. I think the Pippen side won. Even before the injury when he was good....like 90-93. I think Pippen was better. At least by 92. Who knows where it goes given thime though. Always loved mannings passing...
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:43 AM   #15
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Clyde Drexler is not a small foward (alhough he played the position plenty times)

Kiki Vandeweghe and Jerome Kersey were the small fowards for Portland.

ok... I thought as much, but spotted some old video called Clyde Drexler Small Forward... and though hmmm... maybe people considered him more of a SF than SG... Okay.. will take him off the list.


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