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Old 06-18-2014, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Kobe and Duncan are the Greatest of their Era

Yea, Shaq had better stats and the better prime, but anyone can see he underachieved career wise. Besides, if that's all that mattered more people would have Karl Malone or Wilt Chamberlain as number one, but they don't.

These guys have playoffs, championships , repeats, longevity, tenure with one Team, stats, accolades, impact etc.

Isn't this what ISH claims to be the bread and butter of Top 5 GOAT status?

I feel the hate needs to stop on both sides and we need to appreciate this dying breed of player.


Some people need to be bumped (Bird and Magic) because these two should be considered Top 5 All-Time.

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These guys have playoffs, championships , repeats, longevity, tenure with one Team, stats, accolades, impact etc.

Don't think Duncan ever has.
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Don't think Duncan ever has.

That's for Kob.
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Give me Shaq over Kobe. He won 3 rings as the man and had superior peak/prime. Shaq was much more dominant.
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Default Re: Kobe and Duncan are the Greatest of their Era

easily #5 and #6 all time....

the fact that No one here ever saw Russell, Wilt , Kareem , Oscar play shows the true lack of understanding.

If we were to make an All time list of the Modern era from 1980 - 2000's

Kobe and Timmy would be top 5....no doubt about it.
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Give me Shaq over Kobe. He won 3 rings as the man and had superior peak/prime. Shaq was very more dominant.

He couldn't win shizz without a dominant SG and then couldn't do shit after said SG left his side. Shaq needed Kobe just as much as Kobe needed him, as we saw with him repeating with phucking Pau Gasol.

Coulda been a threepeat.
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Give me Shaq over Kobe. He won 3 rings as the man and had superior peak/prime. Shaq was very more dominant.


During the 01' and 02' Championship runs..

Kobe averaged 9.2 ppg on 52% Fg in the 4th quarters

Shaq averaged 4.5 ppg on 29% fg in the 4th quarters

Kobe also took more shots then Shaq and was the facilitator of the offense.
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He couldn't win shizz without a dominant SG and then couldn't do shit after said SG left his side. Shaq needed Kobe just as much as Kobe needed him, as we saw with him repeating with phucking Pau Gasol.

Coulda been a threepeat.


. He didn't do shit after Wade because he was no longer in his prime anymore.

Kobe fans love down play Gasol's impact. Two peat Gasol averaged 18/10/3/ 62 TS% during the season and 19/11/3/60 TS% as the second option in the playoffs. Gasol was the most skilled post player and best passing big man during those two years. Gasol outplayed Howard and KG in '09 Finals and '10 Finals.

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That's for Kob.

Ah, my bad. I agree with your points though.
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During the 01' and 02' Championship runs..

Kobe averaged 9.2 ppg on 52% Fg in the 4th quarters

Shaq averaged 4.5 ppg on 29% fg in the 4th quarters

Kobe also took more shots then Shaq and was the facilitator of the offense.
Still doesn't take away Shaq was the better player on the team and got most of defensive attention.
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Duncan & Shaq were on 8 of the championship teams from 99-09, and collected 6 of the Finals MVPs. It was definitely their era.
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. He didn't do shit after Wade because he was no longer in his prime anymore

Ahh, my bad, why don't you refer to Kobe and Duncan about that, since that's exactly why Shaq shouldn't be considered above them, because of their GOAT longevity.



Kobe post prime: 5.6 rb ast 6.0 1.4 stl .3 blk 27.3 pts


Duncan post prime:14.5 rb ast 3.3 .9 stl 2.1 blk 20.2 pts


Shaq post prime: 7.8 rb ast 1.4 .6 stl 1.6 blk 14.2 pts



Come on cuh

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Duncan and Kobe

When you think of 00's everyone loves Kobe. Hes probably the most popular player ouf of Shaq,Duncan,Kobe
Kobe was more of the Jordan of our era
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Duncan & Shaq were on 8 of the championship teams from 99-09, and collected 6 of the Finals MVPs. It was definitely their era.

Without Kobe, Shaq's only been on one.

Without Shaq , Kobe's been on two, a repeat at that.
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Ahh, my bad, why don't you refer to Kobe and Duncan about that, since that's exactly why Shaq shouldn't be considered above them, because of their GOAT longevity.

Kobe post prime: 5.6 6.0 1.4 .3 27.3


Duncan post prime: 14.5 3.3 .9 2.1 20.2


Shaq post prime: 7.8 1.4 .6 1.6 14.2



Come on cuh


Shaq's prime/peak was so dominant it outweighs Kobe's and Duncan's longevity. Shaq's longevity is being underrated. He was top 5 player for 12 seasons.
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