By being a supreme athlete, and having the genetic blessing of being physically way beyond your time, and your competition looks like 4th graders compared to you. To me, not that impressive.
By being a supreme athlete, and having the genetic blessing of being physically way beyond your time, and your competition looks like 4th graders compared to you. To me, not that impressive.
because he played 48mpg and was asked to and had the ability.
there are probably a dozen guys in history who could do that all the time if their coach just gave them the ball and said "score every single trip down." played them 48mpg. wasn't concerned with winning or getting others involved. IIRC Wilt's 50ppg year he didn't make the playoffs. (anyone care to confirm this?)
because he played 48mpg and was asked to and had the ability.
there are probably a dozen guys in history who could do that all the time if their coach just gave them the ball and said "score every single trip down." played them 48mpg. wasn't concerned with winning or getting others involved. IIRC Wilt's 50ppg year he didn't make the playoffs. (anyone care to confirm this?)
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yet despite all his dominance, he only won two rings, in 67 with the 76ers and 72 with the Lakers and in those years he averaged, 24 ptspg in philly and 14.8 with the lakers, well below his 30.1 pts per game career average
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yet despite all his dominance, he only won two rings, in 67 with the 76ers and 72 with the Lakers and in those years he averaged, 24 ptspg in philly and 14.8 with the lakers, well below his 30.1 pts per game career average
Thats what happens when you run into a hall of fame laden Celtics team every year in the playoffs. Those teams were just stacked you can really blame him for losing to them.
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IIRC Wilt's 50ppg year he didn't make the playoffs. (anyone care to confirm this?)
Yes, and you're wrong, that was the next year. In 1962, they reached 1 basket away from the NBA Finals.
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By being a supreme athlete, and having the genetic blessing of being physically way beyond your time, and your competition looks like 4th graders compared to you. To me, not that impressive.
What's funny is, if Wilt had even better numbers against the same opponents, it would probably look even less impressive to some people, because they will just try to look to reasons to diminish these feats. They'll say, for example, that Wilt's opponents were "6-5 white stiffs". Even if he had, say, double this number, his opponents would immediatelly become "6-3 white stiffs"...
Wilt had 32 60-pointers, because he played many minutes, usually took many shots (though, most times, shot at a great efficiency, including even some games with decent FT shooting) and he was much more talented than his opponents. NOT because they were "6-5 white stiffs", because they simply weren't. He did have physical advantages, that's for sure, but, please, don't pretend that most of the All-Time greats didn't enjoy such advantages over their opponents, as well.
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Several factors have to be taken into consideration when speaking about Wilt's dominance...I'll let some of you bother with looking up the years and dates :)
-The lane was widened to it's present form because of Wilt.
-When was the 3 second rule (lane violation) implemented?
-3pt shots obviously didn't exist, so the person that was the closest to the basket, and had the best skills around the basket reigned supreme.
-Offensive Goaltending...I believe that there was no such rule at the time, right? Which that dood had put backs GALORE!!! Perhaps on several shots that were going to go in anyways.
Take all of that into consideration...and it would be equivalent to playing on a Nerf hoop on your door against your lil brothers
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-When was the 3 second rule (lane violation) implemented?
Way before Wilt. Actually, it's older than the NBA itself.
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-3pt shots obviously didn't exist, so the person that was the closest to the basket, and had the best skills around the basket reigned supreme.
Well, this didn't change much up to the late 80's. Even during the first years of the 3, they shot it only in special occasions.
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-Offensive Goaltending...I believe that there was no such rule at the time, right? Which that dood had put backs GALORE!!! Perhaps on several shots that were going to go in anyways.
Among the rules banished because of Wilt. Not sure about alley-oops, though.
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Several factors have to be taken into consideration when speaking about Wilt's dominance...I'll let some of you bother with looking up the years and dates :)
-The lane was widened to it's present form because of Wilt.
-When was the 3 second rule (lane violation) implemented?
-3pt shots obviously didn't exist, so the person that was the closest to the basket, and had the best skills around the basket reigned supreme.
-Offensive Goaltending...I believe that there was no such rule at the time, right? Which that dood had put backs GALORE!!! Perhaps on several shots that were going to go in anyways.
Take all of that into consideration...and it would be equivalent to playing on a Nerf hoop on your door against your lil brothers
Atleast 12-13 rule changes were created BECAUSE of Wilt. There is no one on Earth who can use the rules Wilt played under as a way to minimize the feats he created. Here is something you need to consider...comparing players from different eras is hard to do because of things like that. Along with other variables/situations. One can argue travel, technology, advanced science. Its like taking Terminator of the future and putting him back in the days of Sarah Conner then wondering "Wow he owned, no one could beat him then!". Society for the most part progresses, develops and tries to better a situation in the future by learning from the PAST.
In 15-20yrs there will be a fan making an argument that the reason todays players scored like they did was because of the new defensive rules that gave the offensive player the bigger advantage. Take that into consideration.
With all that said how come Wilt was the only player who put up those amazing stats? Who else was putting up those monster numbers?
Okay, this is just unreal... (Scoring topic, 60+)
