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Old 03-11-2007, 10:31 PM   #16
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Default Re: Top ten players of all-time

20-30:

Barkley, Charles

Cousy, Bob

Cowens, Dave

Drexler, Clyde

Frazier, Walt

Johnson, Kevin

McHale, Kevin

Pettit, Bob

Stockton, John

Thomas, Isiah

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West was lethal, but I think that Duncan's ability to dominate the paint and the glass and to defend the basket slightly offset West's perimeter shooting and playmaking. West played with great talent (Baylor, Chamberlain), but could "only" win the one ring. It's close, though.
Well you couldn't really blame it on West. Unlike almost everyone, West's playoff performances were better than his season performances. He stepped up like a true GOAT. Also, he hit many clutch shots and is the original Mr. Clutch
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20-30:

Barkley, Charles

Cousy, Bob

Cowens, Dave

Frazier, Walt

Gervin, George

Hayes, Elvin

Johnson, Kevin

McHale, Kevin

Stockton, John

Thomas, Isiah

Starting to look around for Gary Payton...
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30-40:

Archibald, Tiny

English, Alex

Ewing, Patrick

Gervin, George

Hayes, Elvin

Nash, Steve

Payton, Gary

Robinson, David

Walton, Bill

Worthy, James

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Starting to look around for Gary Payton...

It's close, I put him at 30-40. After the top-ten, it's highly debatable and I'll be the first to admit it.
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:36 PM   #21
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Well you couldn't really blame it on West. Unlike almost everyone, West's playoff performances were better than his season performances. He stepped up like a true GOAT. Also, he hit many clutch shots and is the original Mr. Clutch

Oh, yeah, the guy posted some phenomal games in the Finals and was almost like the Jordan of his time. Theh key word there is "almost," however, because West often came up just short, whereas Jordan never did on the biggest stage.

That's why I put Duncan over West, because a big man has historically been able to make a greater difference.
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Quick, Pip or Erving?

Man, tough call. It depends on how much scoring your team might need, but I think that Pippen impacted the game in more ways. Then again, Erving was probably the better overall leader.
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:42 PM   #23
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Agree with basically all of them. Good List, its much harder to do the 11-20, since they are talked about less

Though Mikan and Drexler and maybe even Pippen, not to sure about them

How about Pettit? He is like Mikan, but in a tougher era. And what about David Robinson? I think he should be over Drexler

Pettit, yeah, I missed him, I should have worked him in somewhere. Maybe I'll adjust.

Drexler reached two Finals as the best player on his team, whereas Robinson never did it and only came close once.

Pippen dominated the floor and was an incredible all-around player who could score, pass, handle, rebound, and defend to a high degree in each area. He wasn'a great pure scorer, but he might have been the best "second banana" ever and he was successful as the lead dog while Jordan was playing baseball in '94.

Mikan's lack of longvity and era hurt him, but he was the dominant figure of his time and led his team to four championships. He was also a great big man, and those guys always figure prominently.
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Willis Reed? I think u missed him
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Okay, Pettit's in 20-30, although his era also works against him.
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Willis Reed? I think u missed him

Yeah, I'd forgotten how much Reed scored in his prime. Okay, more adjustments on the way.
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man, after the top 10, it becomes extremely difficult. even the top 10 isn't easy. i'm not altogether certain oscar ranks ahead of moses and west. he definitely has an argument, but i don't know if it's a clear cut case. to me it actually breaks down a little different in terms of tiers. i don't think there's any way i would rank pippen and karl as definitively better than thomas, barkley, or robinson. on the other hand i can pretty definitively rank west and moses over scottie. tremendously subjective too when you try to put all the second and third tier super-stars in rankings.
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pettit should be higher IMO, but he isnt like mikan at all, mikan was the cornerstone of a dyansty, the first dynasty in nba history, pettit won a ring and challenged russell for a couple years but that doesnt compare to winning 4 rings in like 8 or 9 years of proffessional career imo.
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man, after the top 10, it becomes extremely difficult. even the top 10 isn't easy. i'm not altogether certain oscar ranks ahead of moses and west. he definitely has an argument, but i don't know if it's a clear cut case. to me it actually breaks down a little different in terms of tiers. i don't think there's any way i would rank pippen and karl as definitively better than thomas, barkley, or robinson. on the other hand i can pretty definitively rank west and moses over scottie. tremendously subjective too when you try to put all the second and third tier super-stars in rankings.

Agreed, it becomes extremely murky.
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You might be better off ranking the players before creating the tiers, as opposed to creating the tiers of 10 and then ranking the players.
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