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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by mugiwara
    Post injury Bogut is far superior to hibbert on offense. What can Hibbert do better then Bogut offensively other then shoot a 15 footer?
    No he isnt

    Hibbert can give you 20 on any given night.. Bogut isn't that guy anymore.

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Bogut has some weaknesses with his defense. He can defend a pick and roll fine but he doesn't handle away-from-the-ball, down-low, blind-side screens.

    I did not get to see much of his earlier days and so I'm wondering if this is not really a Bogut weakness, but a very wide-spread coaching problem. Seen it for decades, the typical scenario of a guard turned into a coach who doesn't understand and drill power under the basket.

    To me that is the true reason why people say this is a weak era for bigs - the coaches don't know sh!t from shinola about coaching the power game required to excel around the blocks.

    That was also a measure of P Jax greatness - he was able to bring out the best of the Bulls (although Cartwright in particular is shamefully underrated) AND he was able to display Shaq's unique passing and power game to it's highest degree. But then coaching is underrated on Ish too so it is what it is

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Greag Oden>>>

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by All Net
    No he isnt

    Hibbert can give you 20 on any given night.. Bogut isn't that guy anymore.
    No he cant. He averages 12 points on 46% and he's the biggest guy on the court at all times. His offense is inconsistent. He can beat up teams like Miami, but most of the time he is a non factor on offense.

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by All Net
    No he isnt

    Hibbert can give you 20 on any given night.. Bogut isn't that guy anymore.
    He's only scored 20 or more 7 times this year. He's the biggest guy in the league and can't score worth a damn.

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by KyrieTheFuture
    He's the biggest guy in the league and can't score worth a damn.


    demonstrably false

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by crunk-juice
    demonstrably false
    What self respecting center can't score at a higher clip than 50% or more than 13 points a game? Or are you trolling because there is probably some scrub who is bigger than him

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by KyrieTheFuture
    What self respecting center can't score at a higher clip than 50% or more than 13 points a game? Or are you trolling because there is probably some scrub who is bigger than him

    how often do you watch the Pacers? serious question.

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by Dro
    Roy Hibbert is horrible and overrated, just like the rest of the Pacers...

    I couldn't agree more

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Isn't Hibbert 7'2"? How you be that tall and yet average only 8 boards a game?

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Isn't Hibbert 7'2"? How you be that tall and yet average only 8 boards a game?

    Lance gotta get dem triple doubles

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    I'd still take Bogut over Hibbert. Having a 7'2 foot center averaging less than 8 rebounds per game in 30+ minutes is just a disgusting sight

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Isn't Hibbert 7'2"? How you be that tall and yet average only 8 boards a game?
    The Pacers gang rebound as opposed to letting their bigs do it like other teams. Not a big deal, but it hurts Hibbert stats.

    No excuses for the offense display by Hibbert though.

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Isn't Hibbert 7'2"? How you be that tall and yet average only 8 boards a game?
    Because in the NBA height has always had virtually nothing to do with rebounding.

    Fresco's rebounding rules:

    * Positioning, abdomen & lower body strength, and deep knowledge of geometry are vastly more important than height.
    Always were, always will be.

    * Gaining the inside of your man is not always the correct place to get rebounds. Even elite, NBA level basketball players clearly have never been taught that simple fact... they just see the ball go up, and mindlessly start boxing out. Sometimes feels like watching zombies they are so brain dead.

    * You have to understand trajectory of the ball and get to the spot where it's going to bounce - regardless of who's in front of you.

    * A teammate who knows how to box effectively - or monstrously - will get a guy lots of easy boards.

    * Studies have shown that 65 to 75% of all rebounds are taken below the rim. I suspect those studies were done long ago and that the numbers are much higher than that.

    * The very best rebounders seldom leap more than 15 or 18 inches in pursuit of the ball.

    * The hand is quicker than the forearm, and the forearm is quicker than the arm.

    * Outstanding rebounders are ferocious. Their lust can never be slaked.

    * Players who do not study the greatest rebounders are fools.

    Thus shall it ever be, and thus you have the knowledge that must be applied but isn't... by Hibbert, Bosh, and many otherwise great players.

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    Default Re: Andrew Bogut vs Roy Hibbert

    definitely not royina hibberta.

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