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Old 01-07-2014, 03:34 PM   #31
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If you guys knew jack about North Korea you'd know Rodman, as crazy as it sounds, more or less is the perfect key for the lock.

North Koreans (at least the ones the country tries to showcase as 'ideal' and of high political status) all appear to be emotionally invested and sincere in what they believe, and they are drawn to charisma. Thus, Rodman. They do not respond well to quick witted, sharp tongued American politicians and journalists, heck they do not really believe in free speech and the open right to question or criticize their powers that be. Their dear leader is like a god to them. (Again, I'm talking about the high status North Koreans in power... not the poverty striken majority being controlled, imprisoned, etc)

Rodman, being emotionally driven, is a guy who will respect their passion and sincerity. Rodmans heart can be, and is, in this without ulterior motives. Rodman can truly become 'friends' with people over there. The North Korean political party can pick up on this. Can any other ****tard politician or journalist say that? If that reporter who badgered Rodman tried to put himself in Rodman's shoes and act as a voice of the American people he'd be executed by firing squad at dawn. North Koreans don't tolerate that kind of (as they call it) 'Imperialist Aggressor' attitude.

Now, that's not to say the North Korean's are good guys here. The ones in power treat the ones NOT in power in that country like sh*t. We all know this. However, we'll never get anywhere without force (bad idea) or diplomacy. Rodman appears to be the best key we've ever had to entering their doors, Rodman at this moment, represents our key to diplomacy.


Everything you've said in this thread has been incredibly idiotic, and that final bolded sentence really takes the ****ing cake. Rodman goes there so he can live like a King, and the N. Koreans put up with him because they can show their populace they have American giants on their side. No one is worth defending here, yet you are writing 100s of words to excuse a moronic opportunist. Lame.
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Everything you've said in this thread has been incredibly idiotic, and that final bolded sentence really takes the ****ing cake. Rodman goes there so he can live like a King, and the N. Koreans put up with him because they can show their populace they have American giants on their side. No one is worth defending here, yet you are writing 100s of words to excuse a moronic opportunist. Lame.
Well lets agree that there are two ways of looking at it, your way and then CavaliersFTW way. I agree with him a bit, I think it's way better than no contact with N. Korea, no presence of foreigners on their soil, no exposure of the world, etc.

You guys are a bit cynical of Rodman. Dunno.
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:05 PM   #33
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Did Rodman think CNN was actually interested in asking him about a bunch of retired NBA scrubs playing basketball in N. Korea?

Rodman is probably crazy enough to believe this. But I'm sure the pitch for the interview to Charles Smith was more on the lines of "We're just want to hear about the type of work you guys are doing in North Korea. Maybe some info on your global efforts etc..."

Then gets sideblinded by "Why are you supporting a tyrant!?!" to Dennis and pretty much ignored by the interviewer.
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Well lets agree that there are two ways of looking at it, your way and then CavaliersFTW way. I agree with him a bit, I think it's way better than no contact with N. Korea, no presence of foreigners on their soil, no exposure of the world, etc.

You guys are a bit cynical of Rodman. Dunno.
Dude, Rodman is not a link to N. Korea from which peace and liberty will spring . Both him and Kim are evidently both happy in having found someone equally crazy to play the 'look how important i am' game with.
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Rodman better be careful with one of his psycho rants when he's in NK or he will be end up being dog food like Kim's Uncle.
If he is lucky.

Chances are he will be sent to camp 22, where he wont be allowed to die.
Kim killed his uncle because his uncle was a threat, he had to finish him quick. No such risk with rodman

And anyone defending Rodman on this is crazy.

He has basically called the worst dictator alive a good person.
Either he is incredibly ignorant of who the kim family is, and how they have basically enslaved a nation, or he knows about it and chooses to be friends with arguably the worst person alive.

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Rodman is right, he has no obligation to try and do anything about Bae. He isn't there for Bae and everyone berating him for not trying to get Bae released is just dumb.
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If you guys knew jack about North Korea you'd know Rodman, as crazy as it sounds, more or less is the perfect key for the lock.

North Koreans (at least the ones the country tries to showcase as 'ideal' and of high political status) all appear to be emotionally invested and sincere in what they believe, and they are drawn to charisma. Thus, Rodman. They do not respond well to quick witted, sharp tongued American politicians and journalists, heck they do not really believe in free speech and the open right to question or criticize their powers that be. Their dear leader is like a god to them. (Again, I'm talking about the high status North Koreans in power... not the poverty striken majority being controlled, imprisoned, etc)

Rodman, being emotionally driven, is a guy who will respect their passion and sincerity. Rodmans heart can be, and is, in this without ulterior motives. Rodman can truly become 'friends' with people over there. The North Korean political party can pick up on this. Can any other ****tard politician or journalist say that? If that reporter who badgered Rodman tried to put himself in Rodman's shoes and act as a voice of the American people he'd be executed by firing squad at dawn. North Koreans don't tolerate that kind of (as they call it) 'Imperialist Aggressor' attitude.

Now, that's not to say the North Korean's are good guys here. The ones in power treat the ones NOT in power in that country like sh*t. We all know this. However, we'll never get anywhere without force (bad idea) or diplomacy. Rodman appears to be the best key we've ever had to entering their doors, Rodman at this moment, represents our key to diplomacy.
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North Koreans (at least the ones the country tries to showcase as 'ideal' and of high political status) all appear to be emotionally invested and sincere in what they believe, and they are drawn to charisma.

You realize that is all fake right? You realize they are afraid of getting sent to camp 22? Have you read any of the stories of NK defectors? (eg. escape from camp 22)

People in NK know how shit their country is. They just have to grin and bear it out of fear. tons of koreans every year run into china illegally. They know their country sucks.
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Their dear leader is like a god to them.
read some the accounts of defectors. they act that way out of fear. North Koreans arent dumber than south koreans. They just live in fear.
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Rodman, being emotionally driven, is a guy who will respect their passion and sincerity.
Are you trolling? Maybe I misunderstood you, but do you actually believe North Koreans love kim?
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I'm surprised there isn't any talk of this on ISH.

Here's the entire feature:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saLuAF2WBt0

It gets heated at 14:41 and Rodman goes off when asked about Kenneth Bae (US citizen imprisoned for 15 years on bullshit claims by ridiculous N. Korea policies).

Does anyone fully understand what he's saying? A lot of it sounds like this.

what a 20mins waste of my time
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:31 PM   #39
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Rodman is emotionally sensitive, and a social outlier. Any alpha-personality reporter is going to be well aware of this, and they are a piece of shit if they try to prey upon Rodman and pick him apart. I blame the CNN reporter for deliberately pushing his buttons. The reporter wanted this to happen and lead the conversation to go that route, it wouldn't be news if Rodman just said something PC. **** CNN and **** that reporter.



**** Rodman. That's what happens when you whore yourself out to some wackjob dictator. What did he think, people were just going to be completely cool with it? The North Korean government has been responsible for untold levels of misery and poverty, a whole nation of people living like its a ****ing prison camp. **** Rodman and anyone else who stands up for his goofy, neurotic, mentally unbalanced ass.


Rodman can bend over and take it up the ass from Jong-un as much as he likes, doesn't mean we all have to applaud him for being a little bitch. When idiot celebrities go trying to be buddy-buddy with dictators who prop up these morons for propaganda purposes, they deserve to get shit on.

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Are you trolling? Maybe I misunderstood you, but do you actually believe North Koreans love kim?


There's not a lot that indicate otherwise.
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If you guys knew jack about North Korea you'd know Rodman, as crazy as it sounds, more or less is the perfect key for the lock.

North Koreans (at least the ones the country tries to showcase as 'ideal' and of high political status) all appear to be emotionally invested and sincere in what they believe, and they are drawn to charisma. Thus, Rodman. They do not respond well to quick witted, sharp tongued American politicians and journalists, heck they do not really believe in free speech and the open right to question or criticize their powers that be. Their dear leader is like a god to them. (Again, I'm talking about the high status North Koreans in power... not the poverty striken majority being controlled, imprisoned, etc)

Rodman, being emotionally driven, is a guy who will respect their passion and sincerity. Rodmans heart can be, and is, in this without ulterior motives. Rodman can truly become 'friends' with people over there. The North Korean political party can pick up on this. Can any other ****tard politician or journalist say that? If that reporter who badgered Rodman tried to put himself in Rodman's shoes and act as a voice of the American people he'd be executed by firing squad at dawn. North Koreans don't tolerate that kind of (as they call it) 'Imperialist Aggressor' attitude.

Now, that's not to say the North Korean's are good guys here. The ones in power treat the ones NOT in power in that country like sh*t. We all know this. However, we'll never get anywhere without force (bad idea) or diplomacy. Rodman appears to be the best key we've ever had to entering their doors, Rodman at this moment, represents our key to diplomacy.


Wouldn't say Rodman is the key to diplomacy but you do have a lot of good points about Rodman. Kim Jong Un is a huge 90's Bulls fan and he likes Rodman a lot.
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There's not a lot that indicate otherwise.


Look, another retard.

The miracle of a dictatorship. Control the media, kill off anyone who disagrees with you or send them off to a prison camp. It's not until everything falls apart that people on the outside realize just how ****ed up things were.
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Rodman doesn't have to do crap for Bae, this is a country that has millions of people. 1 basketball player has nothing to do with 1 prisoner.

Its not like Rodman is visiting a guy's house while some dude is tied up in a closet and hes ignoring it. its a country with millions of people and issues that Rodman has nothing to do with
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You realize that is all fake right? You realize they are afraid of getting sent to camp 22? Have you read any of the stories of NK defectors? (eg. escape from camp 22)

People in NK know how shit their country is. They just have to grin and bear it out of fear. tons of koreans every year run into china illegally. They know their country sucks.

read some the accounts of defectors. they act that way out of fear. North Koreans arent dumber than south koreans. They just live in fear.

Are you trolling? Maybe I misunderstood you, but do you actually believe North Koreans love kim?



Everyone should read these books. Definitely some eye-opening, heart-wrenching shit on what life in North Korea is like. Absolutely horrific descriptions of life without any freedom, live under the iron grip of paranoid authoritarianism.

http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Camp-14...ywords=camp+22


http://www.amazon.com/The-Aquariums-...ref=pd_sim_b_2

http://www.amazon.com/This-Paradise-...ref=pd_sim_b_1

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Rodman doesn't have to do crap for Bae, this is a country that has millions of people. 1 basketball player has nothing to do with 1 prisoner.

Its not like Rodman is visiting a guy's house while some dude is tied up in a closet and hes ignoring it. its a country with millions of people and issues that Rodman has nothing to do with



That's exactly what he's doing. His whole public relations deal is an absolute farce when they are basically keeping a falsely imprisoned American there against his will, so basically, **** him and the horse he rode in on, Rodman can stay there and choke on that fat toad's balls for eternity.
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