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Old 11-11-2013, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

I thought it might be a good reference if we can put together two lists.

Long 2 Range
Tiny Archibald
Elgin Baylor
Bill Bradley
Wilt Chamberlain (young)
Dave Cowens
Dave DeBusschere
Ernie DiGregorio
Julius Erving
Walt Frazier
Joe Fulks
Hal Greer
John Havlicek
Elvin Hayes
Lou Hudson
Dan Issel
Sam Jones
Bob McAdoo
Bobby McDermott
Jim McMillian
Calvin Murphy
Bob Pettit
Willis Reed
Oscar Robertson
Dolph Schayes
David Thompson
Nate Thurmond?
Norm Van Lier
Chet Walker
Jo Jo White
George Yardley

3-Point Range
Rick Barry
Freddie Brown
Phil Chenier
Louie Dampier
Terry Duerod*
Chris Ford
Gail Goodrich
Jerry Lucas
Pete Maravich
Jon McGocklin
Dolph Schayes
Bill Sharman
Andrew Toney*
Jerry West
Brian Winters

Note: You guys can also mention players from the first few years after the 3 was introduced, prior to its becoming a weapon (listed with an *).

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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

wilt chamberlain use to shoot 40 footers when he was wide open
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Old 11-11-2013, 04:58 PM   #3
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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

If you dunk it jumping from outside the 3pt line does it count as a 3pointer or a 2 pointer?
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If you dunk it jumping from outside the 3pt line does it count as a 3pointer or a 2 pointer?
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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

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If you dunk it jumping from outside the 3pt line does it count as a 3pointer or a 2 pointer?
Would count as a 3. Wilt got robbed of so many points because unfortunately there was no 3pt line when he was doing it.
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Old 11-11-2013, 05:05 PM   #6
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Would count as a 3. Wilt got robbed of so many points because unfortunately there was no 3pt line when he was doing it.

Exactly, a shame really. If the 3pt line existed he would probably have tried dunking from that range more so a safe bet is that RAy Allen and Kobe would not be record holders today.
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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

Rick Barry, Jerry Lucas for sure were 3 point range.

Long-2's Jerry West, Bob Pettit... heck I'm inclined to mention pretty much anyone that wasn't a center - most of the guys who had a jump shot I have footage shooting from the corner which is a modern NBA 3 as it is. What exactly constitutes guys you'd define as having long-2 vs 3 point range, the consistency with which they take shots? Cause even Nate Thurmond hits a 'modern 3 point range' shot in one clip I have of him though I'm pretty sure he never did it often lol
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McAdoo for the long 2.
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Rick Barry, Jerry Lucas for sure were 3 point range.

Long-2's Jerry West, Bob Pettit... heck I'm inclined to mention pretty much anyone that wasn't a center - most of the guys who had a jump shot I have footage shooting from the corner which is a modern NBA 3 as it is. What exactly constitutes guys you'd define as having long-2 vs 3 point range, the consistency with which they take shots? Cause even Nate Thurmond hits a 'modern 3 point range' shot in one clip I have of him though I'm pretty sure he never did it often lol

Well, I was thinking it'd have to be a weapon, or at least something they could hit reliably when open. But yeah, I'll add the guys you've mentioned.
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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

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wilt chamberlain use to shoot 40 footers when he was wide open

sarcasm?

I never watched wilt but decided to just google his FT%

Regular season 0.511
Playoffs 0.465

Doesnt seem like a great shooter.
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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

Long 2 Range
Bob McAdoo (amazing shooter at his best, one of the best ever at shooting with a man in his mug)

Calvin Murphy (one of the most underrated players ever, shortest NBA-player in the HoF, just a terrific shooter with range.. could shoot the 3 with his feet set, as the line was introduced in his final years)

Lou Hudson

Tiny Archibald

Bob Pettit

Hal Greer

Jo Jo White

you can also include Oscar Robertson (was shooting more mid 2s than long 2s but he could do it), even Sam Jones and Willis Reed


3-Point Range
Pete Maravich (call it 4-point range lol.. played a year with the line, as a shell, shot 15 and made 10)

Rick Barry (never quite adjusted to the line in the ABA though)

Jerry West

Fred Brown (didn't call him Dowtown for nothing, 3-point line was introduced when he was past his prime but still managed to have some pretty good 3-pt shooting seasons, like in 1980 he made 39 and shot 88)

Chris Ford (line introduced in his last years, had some good 3-pt shooting seasons, in 1980 took 164 and made 70)

Brian Winters

Jerry Lucas

Also Gail Goodrich and Phil Chenier
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Old 11-11-2013, 05:35 PM   #12
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3 point range - Pete Maravich, Fred Brown
Long 2 - John Havlicek
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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

What about Bill Sharman? For some reason, I think of him as a shooter.
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Default Re: Pre-3pt era players great at making the long 2? Who had 3pt range?

Dolph Schayes was also a big man who had at least long 2-point range, partially responsible for his low (esp.for a big man) FG shooting.
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Note: You guys can also mention players from the first few years after the 3 was introduced, prior to its becoming a weapon.
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