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Old 10-14-2013, 06:35 PM   #46
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

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if thats the case then who isnt a hall of famer


how many guys in the nba dont around 4 reserve allstar games and a single 2nd team all nba

and his current average isnt even what he'l retire with

considering

2011 - 18.8ppg, 52%
2012 - 17.4ppg, 50%
2013 - 13.7ppg, 46%

he'l play 4-5 more years

projected

best case
2014 - 17ppg
2015 - 16ppg
2016 - 16ppg
2017 - 14ppg
2018 - 12ppg

worst case
2014 - 14ppg
2015 - 13ppg
2016 - 13ppg
2017 - 11ppg
2018 - 9ppg

no matter what.. his career average will drop from 18/9 to around 16/8

and worst case ( based on his current body conditioning ) ... his career average will drop from 18/9 to 15/7



so even with just 1 post prime drop off season. his career average is boarderline hall of famer


by the time hes retired.. he wont have a chance in hell at making it



shaq had a 27ppg career average... it dropped to 24ppg after his last few years of being tossed around hanging onto his playing days

Gasol was the best player in the 2010 finals...surely that makes this whole thread irrelevant
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:36 PM   #47
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

Though Gasol will certainly make the HOF, having the HOF label is irrelevant in terms of actual play. I'm a huge Wade fan but he clearly didn't play like a HOFer for the majority of the '13 playoffs. Gasol on the other hand was outstanding during both championship runs.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:41 PM   #48
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

If you look at most productive championship second options since the 00s Gasol would be number 2 behind Kobe. To me he's above Wade putting 12 and 13 together and weighing them against 09 and 10 together, as well as above 08 Pierce, 07 (and 03, obviously) Parker, 05 Ginobili, 04 Hamilton, 06 Shaq, and 11 Terry.
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

Gasol not a HOF?

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Old 10-14-2013, 06:52 PM   #50
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer

There's literally no chance of Pau not being an HOFer.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:07 PM   #51
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

Even Derek Fisher will probably make the HOF. Wouldn't be surprised is L.O. And Metta make it too.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:12 PM   #52
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:13 PM   #53
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will yao ming be a real hall of famer when he makes it under his nominated internation induction?

how many times do i have to say


kobe had no other NBA hall of fame team mate


read the title idiots

You say that as if it is a fact. Which it isn't.

And again. What is the point?

We all know that Kidd in 11 was much worse than Pau in 10. So what does the distinction matter?

Parker in 03 was way worse. Wade in 13 was way worse...etc.

So what is the point?
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:15 PM   #54
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kobe had no other NBA hall of fame team mate


read the title idiots
You do this a lot with all the shit you've convinced yourself is true over the years. Just because you declare it or say it over and over again doesn't make it fact. Kinda reminds me of the episode of The Office where Michael wanted to declare bankruptcy and thought all he had to do was stand in the middle of the office and shout "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!!!", and it was done.

So, you can keep telling yourself Gasol is not an NBA HOFer, but he is. All his international success has done is make it stone cold lead pipe lock. But if he was just trying to get in on the merits of his NBA career, that'd eventually happen too.


Not to mention the simple-minded ignorance of trying to pass it off as something as simple as "no other NBA HOF teammate". People have already pointed out multiple examples from the lad 10+ years alone where '09 and '10 Gasol was better than the second option on some other championship teams.
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

Pau Gasol is a first-ballot Hall of Famer. This isn't even debatable.
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer

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will yao ming be a real hall of famer when he makes it under his nominated internation induction?

how many times do i have to say


kobe had no other NBA hall of fame team mate


read the title idiots

Since there is no NBA hall of fame, are you saying that the HOF commitee will specifically cite Gasol's international career as the reason for his induction? It's a legitimate question because I don't know how that works, but it seems rather unlikely especially for a guy who had a long productive NBA career.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:18 PM   #57
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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

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Pau Gasol is a first-ballot Hall of Famer. This isn't even debatable.

reggie miller and dennis rodman were 2nd ballot




1st ballot is reserved for legends you idiot

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Default Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...rob.html?redir

Here is one method showing Gasol has a higher probability of making the HOF on his NBA resume than not.
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Pau will probably make the HOF before Kobe.
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There's literally no chance of Pau not being an HOFer.
And hell, since OP is being so simple-minded with this HOF nonsense....

How about Kobe leading 3 other HOFers to 47 wins and a 7-seed last year? I mean if we're just going to ignore context and manipulate information to fit agendas, that has to be just as damming to his career resume as, "Kobe winning multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate," is good for his career resume.

So, in a sense, Kobe winning multiple championships without a HOF teammate was cancelled out by leading 3 other HOFers the 7-seed and 47 wins. Right?




Is it really that easy to be a Kobe stan? Just pretend things like context and logic don't exist and go bananas?
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