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Old 10-14-2013, 10:19 AM   #151
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Default Re: Horace Grant: "Michael would average 45 PPG today"

if James harden can avg 26 pts,with almost 11 fta
Durant get 28 with 10 fta
Kobe still getting 8 fta


What will the NBAs poster boy,golden boy,Mr Untouchable,"Jordan rules"
Michael Jordan get

in his prime and later years he was getting 8-11 fta

now where a guard is untouchable if refs deem fit

Its easy to assume 15 fta
and he would have the greenlight to shoot more so than Kobe,Carmelo especially being that hes more efficient than those two

so 25-30 fga,10-15 fta
Extremely Possible

Harden gets 26 shooting like crap
Kobe and Melo get 26-28 by shooting mediocre just putting up a lot of fga and fta

What would Jordan get

minimum 25 fga,12 fta
13/25 9/12 at Minimum

35 pts at Minimum

and knowing Jordan had the ultimate greenlight to do whatever he wanted

you up to to 30 fga,15 fta
15/30,12/15

42 pts so definitely possible
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:14 PM   #152
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Default Re: Horace Grant: "Michael would average 45 PPG today"

@Flash31, Harden averages ~10 FT's a game, but most of those are bullshit calls. They're trying to "manufacture" a superstar. Wade and Lebron had the most finishes and attempts at the rim and also in the paint, IN THE LEAGUE. They didn't even finish in the top 5 though (in FT's attempted).
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:28 PM   #153
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if James harden can avg 26 pts,with almost 11 fta
Durant get 28 with 10 fta
Kobe still getting 8 fta


What will the NBAs poster boy,golden boy,Mr Untouchable,"Jordan rules"
Michael Jordan get

in his prime and later years he was getting 8-11 fta

now where a guard is untouchable if refs deem fit

Its easy to assume 15 fta
and he would have the greenlight to shoot more so than Kobe,Carmelo especially being that hes more efficient than those two

so 25-30 fga,10-15 fta
Extremely Possible

Harden gets 26 shooting like crap
Kobe and Melo get 26-28 by shooting mediocre just putting up a lot of fga and fta

What would Jordan get

minimum 25 fga,12 fta
13/25 9/12 at Minimum

35 pts at Minimum

and knowing Jordan had the ultimate greenlight to do whatever he wanted

you up to to 30 fga,15 fta
15/30,12/15

42 pts so definitely possible





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Old 10-14-2013, 02:57 PM   #154
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Default Re: Horace Grant: "Michael would average 45 PPG today"

He'll get 35 on high shooting percentages on a championship contender. No handchecking, no Hakeem/Admiral/Ewing/Mourning/Mutumbo/Shaq inside protecting the rim, a midrange game suited to attacking zones, etc. D.Wade is Jordan if you took away 2 inches in height, some jumping ability,and a consistent jumpshot, and he managed to average 25+ on high shooting percentages in this era. And Jordan is a far more versatile scorer than Wade ever was.

'Could' he average 40? Sure, with hapless teammates like what Kobe had in 2006. 'Will' he? Not likely.
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Old 10-14-2013, 03:30 PM   #155
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Default Re: Horace Grant: "Michael would average 45 PPG today"

Of course he could. If he wanted to. Maybe at the cost of wins. But we know he wants to win so I'd give him 35 per no problem. The man shoots 50% and you can't breathe on players now. Hell, MJ never had a problem getting to the basket whenever he wanted ANYWAY, and if for some reason he can't get all the way to basket, pull-up midrange jumper no problem. Do people really hate MJ that much that they don't think he can do this? lol. So Kobe can do it once but you guys don't think MJ can do it on better efficiency? Alrighty then....
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:03 PM   #156
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Default Re: Horace Grant: "Michael would average 45 PPG today"

the league is favored towards guards today... it's sure isn't favored towards bigs so we can pretty much call it fact. therefore, if mj didn't average 45, he would certainly average more than what he did in the 90's.
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:07 PM   #157
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Jordan's stats dropped off slightly in the 90's mainly because Pippen developed into a 20ppg guy alongside him, and the league's pace slowed from the 80's run and gun days. That's why stats need to be taken in context, Jordan's 80's stats would suggest that he was a better offensive player then. He wasn't, by all accounts he was far more refined in the 90's as a scorer and as an overall player.
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:35 PM   #158
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JORDAN WILL GET TO LINE WITH 20FTA PER GAME AGAINST TODAY'S SOFT DEFENCE
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:19 PM   #159
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LOL
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You saying Durant wouldn't score more back then than now? Perimeter defense is way better now than then. Don't make me get that youtube video of a hungry Jordan and Pippen never contending almost any of Mullen's 38 points. And they are the leagues best.

But teams now aren't guarding centers or any player down low and they take maybe three or four times as many threes these days? Defenses are more perimeter oriented. Mullin, Kiki Vandeweigh and Alex English didn't have the quick relase, height, speed, overall quickness or handle of Durant, much less the scoring mentality or creativeness and they getting over 25ppg sometimes Alex English was right at 30ppg.

Why do you doubt Durant??? Don't say he was tough enough because those players were never beat up and shot from the same locations.

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Old 10-14-2013, 06:40 PM   #160
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Durant has ONE 50 point game and only FOUR 40 point games in the playoffs, yet he would be the 'GOAT' scorer had he played 15 years ago? Don't make me laugh.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:42 PM   #161
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Durant has ONE 50 point game and only FOUR 40 point games in the playoffs, yet he would be the 'GOAT' scorer had he played 10+ years ago? Don't make me laugh.
Durant would easily be a worse scorer 10 years ago let alone in the more physical 90s. Dude struggles with the physicality of old Ron Artest, his small feminine shoulders, string bean arms and shyness for physicality would frustrate the hell out of him. No touch swing through triple threat moves to get to the line to majorly pad those ppg numbers.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:44 PM   #162
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Default Re: Horace Grant: "Michael would average 45 PPG today"

This thread is so full of delusional fail. 40 pgg at the minimum, 20 FTAs per game?

What's next? He will somehow shoot 50% from three just because?
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:50 PM   #163
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You kids don't get it. MJ was the whole truth and nothing but the truth . Guess you young bucks just can't handle that ... ?
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:02 PM   #164
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Durant has ONE 50 point game and only FOUR 40 point games in the playoffs, yet he would be the 'GOAT' scorer had he played 15 years ago? Don't make me laugh.
Kevin Durant isnt a crazy explosive scorer.. hes super consistent though. I can see you dogging him as an overall player compared to Mike.. but just talking scoring? KD's best scoring seasons in only 6 first years..

28ppg on 65TS
28ppg on 61TS
30ppg on 61TS

Jordan in his early years scored on 3ish ppg more volume but his overall efficiency was 59, 53, 56, 60, 61... and for his whole career Jordan only shot over 60TS four times in 15+ seasons.

Durant has already done it 3 out of 6 years... And Durant already has a peak TS four points higher than MJ's peak efficiency season.


MJ>durant for volume but is going to get roasted in overall efficiency by the end of this comparison. MJ stans gonna be running from TS like its the plague. even though it determines overall points per possession and is the real big picture of efficiency.
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:58 PM   #165
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Kevin Durant isnt a crazy explosive scorer.. hes super consistent though. I can see you dogging him as an overall player compared to Mike.. but just talking scoring? KD's best scoring seasons in only 6 first years..

28ppg on 65TS
28ppg on 61TS
30ppg on 61TS

Jordan in his early years scored on 3ish ppg more volume but his overall efficiency was 59, 53, 56, 60, 61... and for his whole career Jordan only shot over 60TS four times in 15+ seasons.

Durant has already done it 3 out of 6 years... And Durant already has a peak TS four points higher than MJ's peak efficiency season.


MJ>durant for volume but is going to get roasted in overall efficiency by the end of this comparison. MJ stans gonna be running from TS like its the plague. even though it determines overall points per possession and is the real big picture of efficiency.

I'm not 'dogging' his scoring.

He just isn't a better scorer than Mike. Neither were Alex English and Adrian Dantley who all had seasons w/ a higher TS%.

Points from the field will always trump points from the FT line.

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MJ>durant for volume but is going to get roasted in overall efficiency by the end of this comparison.

What do their playoff numbers look like, btw?
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