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Old 08-21-2013, 02:09 PM   #31
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Default Re: LeBron says Dr J is TOP 3 All Time

No one really knows how good J's prime was except a select few who saw the games in person since his prime was not televised.

The ABA seemed like an AND-1 type league, maybe there was no defense played but maybe Dr. J really was that good also.

Dr. J's play in the NBA warrants the notion that the overall game in the ABA was the latter and not the former.

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Old 08-21-2013, 05:23 PM   #32
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I guess I will have to put Dr J above Kobe then

Glad to know that bron knows he isnt the best small forward ever
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:26 PM   #33
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Not surprised...giving how intelligent LeBron is.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:39 PM   #34
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I feel to this day that when u throw in his ABA career that Doc is STILL THE GOAT SF. If u are talking strictly NBA then i think its Bird and Bron as the top two, with Bron about to snatch #1 from Bird. Gotta realize ABA was absorbed by the NBA of course. And the NBA used many of the ABA concepts to globalize the game. But in terms of the GOAT basketball players of all time, I got Doc in my top 7-8 to ever do it. It's a shame the ABA careers actually penalize the overall rankings of the greats to a degree. If I had to pick one athlete PERIOD to be the ambassador for a league, it would be Dr.J. He had it all from his talent, demeanor, and exciting style of play.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:48 PM   #35
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lebron isn't a very good student of the game.


like when he picked #6 and said the nba should retire #23

all the while not even knowing bill russell wore number 6

then saying he would never pick russell over jordan because his 11 rings are no better than any 1 of jud buechler's


dr j even wore #6. if he thinks hes the 2nd best player ever instead of jordan. why'd he pick that number than? maybe cause all he saw was some ABA dunking highlights when he wore #32 LOL


dr J is at best top 14-15 all time
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:05 PM   #36
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I cracked up at him putting not only Bird over Magic but Dr. J after Jordon??? Wtf
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I cracked up at him putting not only Bird over Magic but Dr. J after Jordon??? Wtf

Bird > Magic
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http://remembertheaba.com/ABAStatist...hibitions.html

So I'm guessing you're docking Kareem for playing in a split league, that lost to the ABA in their h2h contests, before the 73-74, 74-75, and 75-76 seasons?
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No one really knows how good J's prime was except a select few who saw the games in person since his prime was not televised.

The ABA seemed like an AND-1 type league, maybe there was no defense played but maybe Dr. J really was that good also.

Dr. J's play in the NBA warrants the question that the overall game in the ABA was the latter and not the former.

The no defense thing was more perception than anything else. The ABA was more of a running/wide open league and shots were taken quicker in the shot clock than they were in the NBA at the time. But you still had excellent defenders both inside and on the wing in the ABA (especially in the second half of the league's existence) who impacted the game. The best example is a player like Artis Gilmore whose defensive impact didn't change at all once he switched from the ABA to the NBA.
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Wow so many people so mad about a persons top 3.
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Magic responds:

"Lebron is entitled to his opinion, but I still think that he and I have a similar game and that's why I LOVE to watch him play!"

That quickly was followed by, "NBA Championship rings are all that matter; Jordan 6, Me 5, Bird 3, LeBron 2 and Dr. J 1."
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Magic responds:

"Lebron is entitled to his opinion, but I still think that he and I have a similar game and that's why I LOVE to watch him play!"

That quickly was followed by, "NBA Championship rings are all that matter; Jordan 6, Me 5, Bird 3, LeBron 2 and Dr. J 1."
No, what matters is rings within context. Were you the BEST player on said team when winning that championship?

Otherwise, why no mention of Kobe ... he matches Magic's 5? Wade matches Bird's 3?

Magic wasn't the best player on all his team's championships, neither was Kareem, neither was Kobe, neither was Wade, neither was Shaq, neither was Russell.
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Tell it to Magic.
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No, what matters is rings within context. Were you the BEST player on said team when winning that championship?

Otherwise, why no mention of Kobe ... he matches Magic's 5? Wade matches Bird's 3?

Magic wasn't the best player on all his team's championships, neither was Kareem, neither was Kobe, neither was Wade, neither was Shaq, neither was Russell.

True.

Going by what Magic said then Russell is the GOAT
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