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Old 08-20-2013, 09:19 PM   #1
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Default Kobe, Dirk, Durant vs Wade, Lebron, Bosh

Okay Lebron stans, say if Kobe, Durant, and Dirk are in a team and beats the Heat and it's big 3, would Kobe be considered the best player in the world? Or would yall say Kobe couldn't have done it without the other two superstars?
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:19 PM   #2
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Kobe would be the 5th best player in that group and the worst player on his team.

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Old 08-20-2013, 09:22 PM   #3
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Okay Lebron stans, say if Kobe, Durant, and Dirk are in a team and beats the Heat and it's big 3, would Kobe be considered the best player in the world? Or would yall say Kobe couldn't have done it without the other two superstars?

Is this prime Kobe? Because that team would go to 5 straight finals.

Oh and to answer your question Lebron stans give shit for winning with Pau Gasol and Odom, you really think they'd give him any type of credit?
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:24 PM   #5
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Default Re: Kobe, Dirk, Durant vs Wade, Lebron, Bosh

Offensively, Kobe/Dirk/Durant is obviously better but Kobe's the only one who plays any defense out of the three and he's not even that good. They'd lose easily...
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Kobe would be the 6th best player in that group and the worst player on his team.

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Old 08-21-2013, 12:10 AM   #7
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Are we talking about prime Wade here? If so I'd still take Lebron/Wade/Bosh by a hair, and Bosh is the worst in this group by far.

If you're not so agenda driven and would replace Bosh with another true superstar with prime garnett then it's a no brainer

In short: Lebron >>> Kobe under most circumstances since obviously that's what you're getting at
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:18 AM   #8
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Dirk and Durant would have to carry Chuckbe.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:20 AM   #9
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Kobe>Wade
Lebron>Durant
Dirk>>>>>>>Bosh

Give me Kobe, Durant and Dirk.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:25 AM   #10
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Well, one thing with the Kobe/Durant/Dirk team's favor is that they fit together better. Both Durant and Dirk can be highly effective scorers without dominating the ball. They're both two of the most portable superstars in recent memory in that you could basically "plug-n-play" them with any other superstar without much conflict. It'd still be an interesting dynamic, though.

I'm just going to assume everyone is in their prime. I think for the Kobe/Durant/Dirk trio to work best, Kobe would have to set aside his ego a little bit, and assume more of a facilitator/PG role. Not saying he shouldn't get his, too, and go into takeover mode at times; but Kobe is the best ball-handler and playmaker of the group, while Durant and Dirk have proven they can score at a similar volume as Kobe on better efficiency.

I don't know, though...I do think that, initially, Kobe/Durant/Dirk would mesh together better than LeBron/Wade/Bosh did in 2011. But if you're getting 2009-2011 Wade with 2009-2013 LeBron, then you've got 2 of the 3 best players in the game/series; although prime/peak Durant and Dirk wouldn't be too far behind Kobe and Wade, and Bosh would be a semi-distant 6th best.


And I think we've seen it'd really probably depend on the rest of their supporting casts. We saw this year that Miami was at their best in the Big 3 era, and they did that by filling out the roster with shooters. I think with Kobe/Durant/Dirk you'd need to fill the roster out more with defensive/rebounding specialists.
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Okay Lebron stans, say if Kobe, Durant, and Dirk are in a team and beats the Heat and it's big 3, would Kobe be considered the best player in the world? Or would yall say Kobe couldn't have done it without the other two superstars?
Kobe will never beat Lebron. except in ASG.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:27 AM   #12
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Kobe would ruin the team chemistry. The Lakers had Nash, Gasol, and Howard last season, and they were barely a playoffs team.

Kobe without Phil Jackson = first round fodder/Non playoffs team.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:32 AM   #13
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Kobe would ruin the team chemistry. The Lakers had Nash, Gasol, and Howard last season, and they were barely a playoffs team.

Kobe without Phil Jackson = first round fodder/Non playoffs team.
Kobe ruined the chemistry? Thats Cowards fault.
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Kobe would be the 2nd best player on that team, probably/maybe even 3rd best (Dirk not so long ago had one of the best playoff/championship runs ever considering what he had to work with around him and what he faced, he aint no slouch).... hell baring his current injury maybe even worse than 2-3rd best? So no i still dont think he would be the best player in the world.... those are also 3 players that are better than anyone on that Miami team... except Lebron.... so i dont think its a fair/comparable assessment of what Lebron has to work with around him anyways... Durant/Dirk aint the type of guys to average 10-15 ppg, neither are they that injury proned....

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Or would yall say Kobe couldn't have done it without the other two superstars?
You first had the "can't win without Shaq" now you nikkas saying he can't without Odom.

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