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Old 08-18-2013, 07:20 AM   #31
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Just more speculation and lack of real proof. If Manziel isn't suspended, it won't be hypocritical because they just didn't have any direct proof of him receiving the money.

And I don't believe it's the brokers themselves that are coming out saying he was paid. Just witnesses and "sources."
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There's zero evidence of cash payment. Where am I denying the NCAA isn't a joke? I'm just stating the Newton case is a decent parallel.
A broker saying that he paid Manziel is evidence.

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Former Auburn players claiming Newton was paid=witnesses and sources claiming Manziel was paid

Zero evidence came about. If Manziel is suspended with zero evidence, they'll be hypocritical since Newton was innocent as well.
And again we are just seeing how ridiculous the NCAA is. They said Newton's father was paid but not Newton. Let's be real here, they just didn't want to wreck the National Championship game. Just like having Pryor's suspension begin the next season so he could play in the bowl.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:42 AM   #32
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If there are any UGA fans on here, do you guys know why you didn't offer Anthony Jennings? Dude is already LSU's 2nd string QB as a true freshmen.
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Former Marine Steven Rhodes is a Freshman on the Middle Tennessee State football team and the NCAA has declared him ineligible because he played in a marine intramural league.


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Former Marine Steven Rhodes is a Freshman on the Middle Tennessee State football team and the NCAA has declared him ineligible because he played in a marina intramural league.

NCAA truly has no shame. Whoever makes these decisions must smoke crack. The arbitrariness is insane.
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"Read up."
A broker saying that he paid Manziel is evidence.


And again we are just seeing how ridiculous the NCAA is. They said Newton's father was paid but not Newton. Let's be real here, they just didn't want to wreck the National Championship game. Just like having Pryor's suspension begin the next season so he could play in the bowl.

A broker saying something doesn't matter. There has to be DIRECT proof for the NCAA to do anything. Not circumstantial evidence. The standard is above beyond a reasonable doubt.

"The video does not show Manziel accepting any money."

And I read that same article somewhere else and just said, "sources." USAToday I believe.

If the broker won't cooperate with the NCAA, they have nothing. The broker can say shit all he wants but unless there's a video of the cash payment or a sum of money deposited in Manziel's account, they gots nothing.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:19 AM   #36
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A broker saying something doesn't matter. There has to be DIRECT proof for the NCAA to do anything. Not circumstantial evidence. The standard is above beyond a reasonable doubt.
The "standard" doesn't even exist.

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No, it shows him signing things and the broker he is sign signing them for told ESPN he paid Manziel. This is getting highly repetitive. If the brokers would talk to the NCAA the NCAA would have no choice, and as it stands Manziel's NCAA status is in jeopardy as we speak.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:44 AM   #37
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The "standard" doesn't even exist.


No, it shows him signing things and the broker he is sign signing them for told ESPN he paid Manziel. This is getting highly repetitive. If the brokers would talk to the NCAA the NCAA would have no choice, and as it stands Manziel's NCAA status is in jeopardy as we speak.

They will do the same thing that they did with Newton. It will string along until JF does something stupid to make the school kick him out or he declares for the draft in a year or two. Magically then the NCAA will start wrapping up the investigation.

Might as well move on and talk about other things. NCAA is about making money.
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They will do the same thing that they did with Newton. It will string along until JF does something stupid to make the school kick him out or he declares for the draft in a year or two. Magically then the NCAA will start wrapping up the investigation.

Might as well move on and talk about other things. NCAA is about making money.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:54 PM   #39
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A broker saying that he paid Manziel is evidence.

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uh no, it is not.

its nothing more than an accusation.

if Hawker and I say we saw you sucking a transvestites dick in the back alley its not proof of a damn thing.

they have to show that money changed hands.

if NCAA can't do that they have nothing.
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uh no, it is not.

its nothing more than an accusation.

if Hawker and I say we saw you sucking a transvestites dick in the back alley its not proof of a damn thing.

they have to show that money changed hands.

if NCAA can't do that they have nothing.
Sexual fantasies aside, there is a big difference because there is videotape of Manziel signing for thus broker, which makes this broker's accusation weightier than your disturbing imagination.
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Sexual fantasies aside, there is a big difference because there is videotape of Manziel signing for thus broker, which makes this broker's accusation weightier than your disturbing imagination.



Was just thinking of an extreme example of how an accusation is not proof of anything.


BTW, per Joe Shad, the video does not have a discussion of any payment amount, does not show him accepting money, and so far won't be released by the anonymous source.

So that video is not proof or evidence of jack squat.

The NCAA cannot just suspend somebody b/c a reporter claims to have seen a video. They have to actually see it themselves too.

I highly doubt the broker will give the video to the NCAA b/c it will pretty much end his ability to get other famous athletes to sign for him.

I also doubt the NCAA wants it b/c they would then be forced to start investigating all of the other big time star names who all have tons of signed merch being sold by the same dealers that have all the Johnny stuff.

The NCAA is not going to want to turn this season into a Tour de France style attack on all the big names in the major conferences. They can't afford it with the power 5 threatening to start up their own division.
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Former Marine Steven Rhodes is a Freshman on the Middle Tennessee State football team and the NCAA has declared him ineligible because he played in a marine intramural league.

The NCAA has declared Rhodes eligible.

Well, at least they made that right.
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Except, Trevor Knight has reportedly won the Sooners Starting QB job, and Bell will be the backup. Although this is just a report, and Stoops hasn't revealed the started publicly yet. TBH I'd be pretty shocked if this ended up being true.

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Except, Trevor Knight has reportedly won the Sooners Starting QB job, and Bell will be the backup. Although this is just a report, and Stoops hasn't revealed the started publicly yet. TBH I'd be pretty shocked if this ended up being true.

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I hope it is a case of Blake being great in practice and Trvor being Sam Bradford-like amazing.
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Bob Stoops has officially named Trevor Knight the starting QB of the Sooners, Blake Bell will be the backup.
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