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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Kyrie is the real deal despite his team records, the biggest concern of his career will be his health. He seems very injury prone.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solefade
    Kyrie is the real deal despite his team records, the biggest concern of his career will be his health. He seems very injury prone.
    The Cavs whole MO was to have high lottery picks in the three drafts following James' departure. The plan worked out perfectly. Nothing to see here.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
    The Cavs whole MO was to have high lottery picks in the three drafts following James' departure. The plan worked out perfectly. Nothing to see here.

    I thought it was to win a title before Lebron?

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    What a troll thread. Kyrie is a beast. Best handles in the game and statistically the clutchest. Averaged 23/6/4 in his second year and some one has the nerve to call him the most overrated. I've seen threads about the top point guards in the game and the concensus is top 6 or 7 which is right. If he keeps improving he will easily be top 3.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solefade
    Kyrie is the real deal despite his team records, the biggest concern of his career will be his health. He seems very injury prone.
    I don't know... He was out for the shoulder in year one and that's it. And we held him out extra long to tank. Next was a concussion and then him punching a wall. Not really injury probe injuries. There has been no problem with the foot he hurt in college. That shoulder could be a problem cause its been injured multiple times.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack


    Hilariously horrible analysis and ironic ball dominant talk coming from a LeBron James fanboy. Kyrie's elite shooting alone make him a constant threat off the ball.
    There is only one ball dominant player in the NBA worth building around.



    Every other ball dominant player is inferior and will not result in a championship. Tell me when the last team with a ball dominant little point guard won a championship?

    With LeBron you got size at 6'8. He can effect the game in other ways. With these little point guards like Irving they arn't doing shit unless the ball is in their hands. No defense, no rebounding.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by LBJMVP
    I don't know... He was out for the shoulder in year one and that's it. And we held him out extra long to tank. Next was a concussion and then him punching a wall. Not really injury probe injuries. There has been no problem with the foot he hurt in college. That shoulder could be a problem cause its been injured multiple times.
    He played a total of 2 games at Duke cus of injuries lol

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
    It's a dumb argument in both cases, but at least Love is a 24-year-old who has been in the league for five seasons. If the Cavs haven't made the playoffs three years from now, that kind of criticism may be warranted.
    Irrelevant. It took years for Love to become "Love", Irving came into the league very polished. Love has had only 2 very good seasons while being "the man".

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyMontana
    There is only one ball dominant player in the NBA worth building around.



    Every other ball dominant player is inferior and will not result in a championship. Tell me when the last team with a ball dominant little point guard won a championship?

    With LeBron you got size at 6'8. He can effect the game in other ways. With these little point guards like Irving they arn't doing shit unless the ball is in their hands. No defense, no rebounding.
    Typical Lebron argument. Haha. Lmao at this bitch who thinks Lebron was good at defense until mike brown came.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
    Irrelevant. It took years for Love to become "Love", Irving came into the league very polished. Love has had only 2 very good seasons while being "the man".
    It's irrelevant to say people are being dumb by holding Irving up to a win-loss standard when he has only been in the league for 2 seasons, was drafted as a teenager and is a player for a franchise that just completely nuked their entire roster and even publicly stated they had a "three year plan" of getting back into playoff contention?

    I disagree. Cavs have had no desire to maximize wins over the last three years.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solefade
    He played a total of 2 games at Duke cus of injuries lol
    He played 8 games at duke got injured one time, came back and immediately dominated the NCAA tournament and has never had a problem with that foot since. Played a total of 11 games. Where did you pull the number two out of? Your ass?
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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by LBJMVP
    He played 6 games at duke got injured one time, came back and immediately dominated the NCAA tournament and has never had a problem with that foot since.
    He played 11 games at Duke.

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

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    Nice username, I agree completely
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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
    He played 11 games at Duke.
    I meant 6 before the injury then came back and dominated the tounament. Meant to put 8

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    Default Re: is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

    Not that anyone in this thread is doing so, but Kyrie is definitely overrated on ISH.

    He has a very aesthetic game, and has a ton of talent but plenty of people are saying they'd take him over Rose and Westbrook going forward. How is that not overrated?

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