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Old 07-25-2013, 06:04 PM   #76
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Parker weighs like 170 pounds and has a 20 inch vert. Hes your typical defensive liability at the PG position, not to mention that Deron is also a better shooter and Passer than Parker and he doesn't have the gift of playing in Greg Popovics system.
but he is athletic which is what i am saying. also, parker is a decent shooter now. Also, i don't think Deron can play under Pop.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:08 PM   #77
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but he is athletic which is what i am saying. also, parker is a decent shooter now. Also, i don't think Deron can play under Pop.

Anyone can play under Pop, he could make Average PGs like Jeff Teague and Devin Harris into stars. Heck, I could probably average a good 2 points per game in the NBA if I played for him.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:17 PM   #78
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Dwight is not even a top 30 player in the league.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:19 AM   #79
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Parker weighs like 170 pounds and has a 20 inch vert. Hes your typical defensive liability at the PG position, not to mention that Deron is also a better shooter and Passer than Parker and he doesn't have the gift of playing in Greg Popovics system.
Parker may be a 'defensive liability' but his opponents are always bigger defensive liabilities when playing him if you get what I mean.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:17 AM   #80
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Dwight is not even a top 30 player in the league.
In 2011 and 2012 when Dwight was healthy he was a top 3 player in the league. Now after an injury-ridden season, people start hating on him. He may be mentally soft but you can't deny his talent.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:22 AM   #81
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Parker may be a 'defensive liability' but his opponents are always bigger defensive liabilities when playing him if you get what I mean.

Only because outside of Rondo, Paul, Williams, Westbrook, Conley and some specialists defense at the PG position is absolutely disgusting.
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:52 PM   #82
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Only because outside of Rondo, Paul, Williams, Westbrook, Conley and some specialists defense at the PG position is absolutely disgusting.
You give what you take. Parker is 1st option. His defense is better then Kobes 2guard defense but lets not go there (we all know how many Kobe lovers there are here)
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #83
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Dwight is not even a top 30 player in the league.

Even last season Dwight was a top 20 player in the league. And he's was top 2/3 the 4 years before that.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:04 PM   #84
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Even last season Dwight was a top 20 player in the league. And he's was top 2/3 the 4 years before that.
Dwight is an animal in this day and age. No one can block/distort shot like him in the paint. No one can rebound like him and sure as hell no one can draw fouls like him
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:06 PM   #85
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That is one of the worst top 10s I've seen in a long time.

When Healthy
1. Lebron (Best player in the league)
2. Durant (30 PPG on 50, 40, 90)
3. Dwight (Dominant defensive presence)
4. Kobe (Amazing scorer plus elite D)
5. Paul (20 and 10 with great D)
6. Duncan (Amazing post game and dominating D)
7. Westbrook (Great all around freak athlete)
8. Melo (Most versatile scorer in the league)
9. Williams (Most versatile player at PG)
10. Rose (Freak athlete and great finisher)
kobe and elite D never belonged in the same sentence despite the accolades. his D last year was terrible.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:10 PM   #86
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You give what you take. Parker is 1st option. His defense is better then Kobes 2guard defense but lets not go there (we all know how many Kobe lovers there are here)

Im no Kobe fan, in fact theres probably no player in the league that I hate more but Kobe has been a lock down defender his entire career. Theres a reason hes made multiple all-defensive teams, which are voted on by coaches, unlike DPOY. Parker is an awful defender. Hes short, he cant jump, he weighs less than I do. Sure Kobe has gotten lazy on defense as he ages, but hes still miles ahead of Parker. I would almost consider taking Steve Nash over Parker on defense, thats how bad he is.

Parker is only a 1st option because the greatest coach of all time has designed his entire offense to get Parker open shots. No other player in the league has that sort of luxury, the only one that comes close is Dwight in Orlando, and even then it wasnt at the same extent as Parker. Pop has taken bona-fide scrubs in Splitter and Diaw and made them look like servicable NBA starters. I honestly think that Pop could make Jose Calderon look like prime Steve Nash. Thats why I question Parkers actual skill.
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If kb24 was playing elite D they would not have just crept into the PO. The defining moment of his pathetic D was when he let Jrue Holiday in for the easy lay up for game winner. I overlooked his pathetic D throughout the season when everyone was making 3 pointers over him and doing what they liked on the O side but that play.....
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kobe and elite D never belonged in the same sentence despite the accolades. his D last year was terrible.

I think that the 100s of NBA coaches that have voted him to All-Defensive teams throughout his career know more than someone on the internet that probably watched less than 10 lakers games last season.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:14 PM   #89
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I think that the 100s of NBA coaches that have voted him to All-Defensive teams throughout his career know more than someone on the internet that probably watched less than 10 lakers games last season.
so kobe played elite D last year is that what you are saying?
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:15 PM   #90
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If kb24 was playing elite D they would not have just crept into the PO. The defining moment of his pathetic D was when he let Jrue Holiday in for the easy lay up for game winner. I overlooked his pathetic D throughout the season when everyone was making 3 pointers over him and doing what they liked on the O side but that play.....

If you think that one player on the PERIMETER playing elite D is going to dramatically change a teams play-off position, especially in the west, then you need to do a little research.
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