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Old 07-25-2013, 10:10 AM   #31
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Rondo is a very good player, but I can't see putting him over the more versatile PGs like Williams, Parker and Rose.

I think you overrated Deron. He is a nice PG. But he isn't a great defender and doesn't always play hard. The guy is kind of a whiny bitch. I don't think CP3 would have lost to Nate Robinson's Bulls.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:13 AM   #32
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I think you overrated Deron. He is a nice PG. But he isn't a great defender and doesn't always play hard. The guy is kind of a whiny bitch. I don't think CP3 would have lost to Nate Robinson's Bulls.

I still can't believe they lost to Chicago's bench on their home floor in a game 7
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:15 AM   #33
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I think it's pretty hard to do 1-10 ranked, so I'll just use tiers.

God tier: James

Demi-God tier: Durant

Top 5 contenders: Howard*, Rose*, Paul, Westbrook*

Bottom half of top 10: Parker, Harden, Duncan, Wade/Bryant

*Assuming they get back to full health and their previous best.

Wade is pretty hard to rank because he's a top 5 contender when healthy, even at this stage, but he's barely top 20 at times because of his knee. So he's about 10, Kobe is uncertain because of his age.

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That is one of the worst top 10s I've seen in a long time.

When Healthy
1. Lebron (Best player in the league)
2. Durant (30 PPG on 50, 40, 90)
3. Dwight (Dominant defensive presence)
4. Kobe (Amazing scorer plus elite D)

Is this a joke?

Look, all respect to Kobe for beasting at age 34, but he was atrocious defensively last season. As was the entire Lakers team, but he wasn't anywhere near 'elite D'

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Old 07-25-2013, 10:16 AM   #34
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There still isn't a PF in the league I would take over Duncan when it matters. Even at 37 and limited minutes, he is the best.
I agree. Duncan, like LeBron and Kobe are truly special players that I feel lucky to have seen in realtime.

What Duncan did last year was incredible. His defense is elite and his post moves are beautiful in fundamentals and fluidity.

He rarely makes bad decisions and doesn't worry about his statline doing whatever is required to get a win.

He is the epitome of professionalism and handles everything with class.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:17 AM   #35
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I still can't believe they lost to Chicago's bench on their home floor in a game 7
Yea, i still can't get over that. Absolutely pathetic.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:21 AM   #36
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I agree. Duncan, like LeBron and Kobe are truly special players that I feel lucky to have seen in realtime.

What Duncan did last year was incredible. His defense is elite and his post moves are beautiful in fundamentals and fluidity.

He rarely makes bad decisions and doesn't worry about his statline doing whatever is required to get a win.

He is the epitome of professionalism and handles everything with class.
Great post. Watching the finals, Parker can be more noticeable with his shots in the lane and dribbling around defenders. But Duncan is the guy you're legit afraid of down the stretch. The guy anchored their defense all series and was a monster on offense at times. There was a point i would be shocked when he missed a shot.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:23 AM   #37
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I don't think Gasol or Bosh are top 10. I would honestly put Noah there if we aren't counting Westbrook, Kobe, or Rose.

Gasol is one of the top 4 defensive big men in the league but, in relation to Noah, he's also a legit scoring option. I love Noah, and I'd put him top 15... but not sure he's better than Marc Gasol.

As for Bosh, I can't help but believe that Bosh is still a legit first option, masquerading as a third option because he prefers to win as the third option.
If Bosh were the go-to player, I'd see him having significantly better stats than Griffin, LA, etc, while potentially leading his team to the playoffs.

Noah, again, is a great player, but I don't believe that he brings enough to the table offensively. Though he is closer to Bosh than he is to MGasol.

HM would go to Griffin, LA, Parker, Noah (in no order).
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:25 AM   #38
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Yea, i still can't get over that. Absolutely pathetic.
Noah on one leg went Hakeem mode and dominated on both ends. That defense was a treat to watch. Also that crackhead looking mofo Marco went ham and Jimmy boy shut the perimeter down. I saw the stats from ESPN before game saying the home team wins Game 7s over 80% of the time. But I knew Thibs da gawd wasnt gonna bend over. Heart and balls are important.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:11 AM   #39
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That is one of the worst top 10s I've seen in a long time.

When Healthy
1. Lebron (Best player in the league)
2. Durant (30 PPG on 50, 40, 90)
3. Dwight (Dominant defensive presence)
4. Kobe (Amazing scorer plus elite D)
5. Paul (20 and 10 with great D)
6. Duncan (Amazing post game and dominating D)
7. Westbrook (Great all around freak athlete)
8. Melo (Most versatile scorer in the league)
9. Williams (Most versatile player at PG)
10. Rose (Freak athlete and great finisher)

DWill over Rose? And if we're going for 'when healthy' wade is top 5. Kobe hasn't played elite D in years. He doesn't even play D nowadays.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:44 AM   #40
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1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Rose
4. CP3
5. Westbrook
6. Howard
7. Curry
8. Parker
9. Melo
10. Harden
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:27 PM   #41
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1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. Howard
4. CP3
5. Westbrook
6. Melo
7. Rose
8. Curry
9. Kobe
10. Duncan

Before you guys crucify me for putting Durant as #1, I think he's finally primed to have a breakout season in terms of statistical dominance. With the loss of Kmart, I think Durant realizes he's going to have to take on more of a scoring load and at least in the perception of the general public, Durant will be considered the best player. I still think Lebron is going to be overall better, but his stats will look worse because he has more help.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:43 PM   #42
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1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. Howard
4. CP3
5. Westbrook
6. Melo
7. Rose
8. Curry
9. Kobe
10. Duncan

Before you guys crucify me for putting Durant as #1, I think he's finally primed to have a breakout season in terms of statistical dominance. With the loss of Kmart, I think Durant realizes he's going to have to take on more of a scoring load and at least in the perception of the general public, Durant will be considered the best player. I still think Lebron is going to be overall better, but his stats will look worse because he has more help.

You're trying too hard to go against the grain. Durant could win the MVP and the vast majority will still consider LeBron the best player in the game (ala Shaq, Jordan).
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:44 PM   #43
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1. LBJ
2. Durant
3. Howard
4. Carmelo
5. Westbrook
6. Rondo

7. Rose
8. TP
9. Wade
10. Paul George


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Old 07-25-2013, 12:50 PM   #44
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Because they were elite players last season and they arnt going to just drop off, and you have to assume they will be elite until they actually show decline. Do you think that NBA coaches are thinking that Kobe is going to suck when he comes back? No, they're preparing for his same old dominant self.

I also didn't put Rondo, who is one of the most flawed players in the league, at #6.
Then why did you leave off Wade? Most people had him in the top 5 during stretches last year. If you're going to say that he declined, due to his playoff performace, he didn't. He was injured.

Also, Kobe doesn't play elite defense. He hardly played defense last year.
CP3 didn't average 20 and 10. His numbers were 16.9 and 9.7. If you're going to round them up, it should be 17 and 10.
Deron Willams in the top 10? Have you seen him play defense?

1. Lebron - Obvious reasons.
2. Durant - Same as Lebron.
3. Dwight Howard - An injured Howard put up 17/12/3 on 58%. He's healthy now.
4. Carmelo - Scoring championship with 7 RPG.
5. Westbrook/Wade - Wade takes the spot if he develops his game and gets better as promised.
6. CP3/Wade - Same reason as above.
7/8. Harden - He sucks on defense, but averaged pretty crazy numbers.
7/8. Duncan - Until proven otherwise, he's a top 10 player.
9. Tony Parker - One of the better PG's.
10. Paul George - Good offensive players and a great defender.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:51 PM   #45
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James
Durant
Bryant
Rose
Parker
Paul
Melo
Howard
Westbrook
Duncan
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