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Old 07-21-2013, 04:50 PM   #16
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

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Allen wasn't a scrub when he won the title with Miami.



Are you kidding? He was one of the worst players on the Heat all season and for most of the playoffs
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:11 PM   #17
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Are you kidding? He was one of the worst players on the Heat all season and for most of the playoffs

No, he wasn't.

Playing the only role he's going to play as a 37 year old (shoot and move) and scoring 10-11 ppg through out the season and playoffs while being the only consistent bench player all year is no scrub, sorry.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:18 PM   #18
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

i remember ray allen hitting 8 threes in a finals game and then getting shut down and outplayed by derek fisher in the next one. hes clutch as hell, but if he is well defended, aka spurs get that rebound, then he has another underwhelming finals. the fact that chaos has to happen for him to get open to take and hit the 3, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. ray allen is great in those chaotic moments. but i'll take pierce in his prime over ray allen in his prime. pierce was more capable of creating offense for himself and others around him.
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

Pierce was better as a player, and is higher on All-time list. Ray is catching up with extra ring(s), but these arent worthy that much since he is a bench player. However that clutch shot alone probably bumps him few spots up for some fans
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:01 PM   #20
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

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Pierce was always better. This was never a debate among Celtics fans from 08-12.

That said, people have forgotten how great Allen was in his prime. That's why we get all these Prime Ray Allen vs. Current Stephen Curry threads with people saying Ray is nothing more than a spot up shooter. What a joke...
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:30 PM   #21
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

allen has a better career, paul is the better player
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:27 PM   #22
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I give it to Pierce.
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

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i remember ray allen hitting 8 threes in a finals game and then getting shut down and outplayed by derek fisher in the next one. hes clutch as hell, but if he is well defended, aka spurs get that rebound, then he has another underwhelming finals. the fact that chaos has to happen for him to get open to take and hit the 3, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. ray allen is great in those chaotic moments. but i'll take pierce in his prime over ray allen in his prime. pierce was more capable of creating offense for himself and others around him.

And ray was not
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

Pierce was a franchise player most of his career, it goes to pierce.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:44 PM   #27
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Default Re: Paul Pierce vs. Ray Allen: Who's Higher All Time?

PP prbably the better overall player, but man I am so glad I have Ray on our team
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Pierce was a franchise player most of his career, it goes to pierce.

so was allen
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Pierce was always better. This was never a debate among Celtics fans from 08-12.

That said, people have forgotten how great Allen was in his prime. That's why we get all these Prime Ray Allen vs. Current Stephen Curry threads with people saying Ray is nothing more than a spot up shooter. What a joke...

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