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Old 07-21-2013, 03:09 PM   #1
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Default Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

Lebron should have that one too. It doesn't get said enough
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:12 PM   #2
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

Nastradamus was a travesty.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:12 PM   #3
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

Post all star break 2011 Rose >> LeBron

this gets brought up a lot, some people say Dwight shoulda won too.


I still give it to rose.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:13 PM   #4
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:17 PM   #5
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

I'm really getting tired of this anti-Rose nonsense.

If the MVP award was the best player of the year award, then sure, give it to LeBron. But over the past 20 or so years, there have been numerous times when the best player in the world has NOT won the MVP (Jordan, Shaq, Kobe etc).

So, if we're applying the past, Rose was the MVP in 2011. LeBron was busy playing co-alpha with Wade, and they still ended up with less than 60 wins in an underwhelming regular season.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:41 PM   #6
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

Averaged 25 ppg / 8 apg for a slow, low scoring 62-win team that was missing key players for parts of the season... Rose had a Usage-% second to only Kobe Bryant that season, and almost all his in-game production went up in Wins (vs Losses)...MVP was definitely well deserved.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:46 PM   #7
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

No it wasn't.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:50 PM   #8
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

In my opinion, MVP should be given to the best player on a top 4 seed team (either conference), who has played at least 66 games that season. That sound good or bad?
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:52 PM   #9
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

every few years, there will be an MVP like Rose. just like how Steve Nash won it over Shaq and how Karl Malone won it over MJ. i just accept that every few years there will be a bad choice for MVP and just accept it.

In the end it doesnt even affect Lebron that much. He will still get like at least 6 MVPs total and be closer to GOAT status. one more MVP wont make his case much more worthy than it already is.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:53 PM   #10
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

Rose= WMOT worst mvp of all time

Shaq should have won the MVP over Nash, but Nash was a much better MVP choice than Rose.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:56 PM   #11
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

Shut the **** up. Why are all Miami fans obsessed with hating on D-Rose? I sense some fear there, *******.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:59 PM   #12
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

There are always years when the MVP isn't rewarded to someone based purely on level of play. For one reason or another, there just seem to be years where there's more of a fixation on a good 'story' for the MVP award. And D Rose's story was a pretty darn good one.

Based purely on level of play, it should've been Dwight or LeBron that year.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:59 PM   #13
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

It was between Dwight or Rose.
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:01 PM   #14
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

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I'm really getting tired of this anti-Rose nonsense.

If the MVP award was the best player of the year award, then sure, give it to LeBron. But over the past 20 or so years, there have been numerous times when the best player in the world has NOT won the MVP (Jordan, Shaq, Kobe etc).

So, if we're applying the past, Rose was the MVP in 2011. LeBron was busy playing co-alpha with Wade, and they still ended up with less than 60 wins in an underwhelming regular season.
Exactly.

The same reason why Iverson's 2001 MVP is totally justifiable, even if he wasn't the "best player" in the league. And no one really claims he was or Rose for that matter.

Who do you give it to that season? LeBron and Wade's numbers were the EXACT same. Even if LeBron was the best player he didn't separate his play and production enough from his own teammate to warrant serious contention. Wade was still playing his peak like basketball. And given the way the team was formed, he came across as very cowardly that year. He's forgiven thereafter for having to carry such a heavy burden in 2012, and 2013. But the fact still remains he wasn't unquestionably the Heat's best player in 2011. Even if retrospect of consistency tells us he probably was.

Same reason Shaq didn't deserve MVP in 2001. You don't get the award when there is a co-alpha on your team, like Kobe was putting up an absurd 29/5/5 and essentially being the team's closer late in games. Iverson was a 5'11 lone gunner and playmaker on a team full of defensive role players. His season in CONTEXT is much more impressive. His load, and pressure was much heavier.

Give it to Dwight? Why? He had more offensive weapons than Rose on his team, and he wasn't NEAR as clutch as Rose was all season. Derrick single handedly in certain games turned losses into wins with 4th quarter take overs and come backs on his shoulders.

Derrick Rose was a 6' PG having to play BOTH guard spots due to Keith Bogans spot up shooting, scoring incompetence. He was the lone scorer and play maker on a team that ended up having the best record in the league and totally surpassed expectations. Out performing a team that brought together three franchises pieces in the off season. Context tells me it's much more impressive than what LeBron could've done to win MVP that year. Inconsistent Carlos Boozer, whose stats declined significantly each month that year was billed as his second best player, in a desparate 2010 free agency signing?



Stay salty LeBron stans. Your boy DID NOT deserve MVP in 2011. The only one who earned it that year through guts, determination, and will was Derrick Rose. Jimmies are still rustled, sand still firmly in your camel toes. Get over it. If LeBron is clearly the better player (which he is) then take solace in that and stop being so insecure.
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Default Re: Derrick Rose's MVP was a travesty.

Media always gets tired of giving the MVP trophy to the same guy. If they didn't, Jordan would have won every year in the 90s
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