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Old 07-07-2013, 01:09 PM   #31
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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Lakers played incredible competition.

Heat played historically weak competition.

No contest.

Interesting.

A 2010 Celtics team that many picked to lose to a Wade led Heat team full of scrubs in the first round is incredible competition in the finals?
Then you have the 2009 Magic, who outside of the 2007 Cavs might just be one of the worst teams to ever make the finals.

The big 3 have bullied the Lakers ever since forming, and it would happen even with the Lakers at full strength. Bosh has feasted on the Lakers front court every time they played.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:21 PM   #32
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

Lol at people saying Trevor Ariza can stop LeBron. Then they bring up LeBron stats from 08-09 (when he was on the Cavs)

Not only is LeBron mentally a different player now than he was back then, but his teammates are much better and the team is constructed differently than the team he played with in 08-09.

Anyway, a thread like this is pretty pointless. All it'll ever be is speculation. What I do know is that LeBron's teams have had their way against Kobe's teams more often than not.

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Old 07-07-2013, 01:55 PM   #33
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This is exactly what I don't understand. ISH keeps going on and on about how historically stacked the Heat are yet the Heat would lose to every team in the NBA this year-including the Bobcats, and would stand no chance against other championship teams.

Its really confusing logic to follow.

Well it works both ways. Apparently Lebron has the worst supporting cast for a championship season ever and the Heat have zero interior presence. While Kobe is a horrible player carried by his dominating front line.

So it's either dominating front line+greatest supporting cast>than horrible supporting cast and zero interior presence or Heat fans are full of shit.
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:12 PM   #34
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

According to Kobe nut munchers, Heat is a historically stacked team. One of the most stacked teams ever. Yet, the 2009 Lakers, who apparently had a (according to the same idiots) had a ***** Gasol, Bynum who sucked and didn't play at all, a scrub Artest, and Kobe, can beat the Heat? I thought that the Lakers big men during the 2-peat were shit?

Now the same people are saying that the Lakers can beat the Heat. Doesn't that actually mean that Kobe had more help than Lebron? That the Lakers were more stacked that the Heat are now?
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:44 PM   #35
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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Interesting.

A 2010 Celtics team that many picked to lose to a Wade led Heat team full of scrubs in the first round is incredible competition in the finals?
Then you have the 2009 Magic, who outside of the 2007 Cavs might just be one of the worst teams to ever make the finals.

The big 3 have bullied the Lakers ever since forming, and it would happen even with the Lakers at full strength. Bosh has feasted on the Lakers front court every time they played.
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Old 07-07-2013, 03:03 PM   #36
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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Not only is LeBron mentally a different player now than he was back then, but his teammates are much better and the team is constructed differently than the team he played with in 08-09.

Lol Lebron fans loves to talk about how godlike Lebron was in 08-09. Can't have it both ways.

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Anyway, a thread like this is pretty pointless. All it'll ever be is speculation. What I do know is that LeBron's teams have had their way against Kobe's teams more often than not.



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Old 07-07-2013, 03:24 PM   #37
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

Heat just played the weakest first three rounds in NBA history.

Not one 50 win team. Not one.

That's mind-boggling.

Meanwhile, the 08-10 Lakers are seeing 50+ win teams from the first round.

Pathetic East.

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Old 07-07-2013, 03:29 PM   #38
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Whats Kobe's record against LeBron led teams? LeBron owns Kobe's soul.
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Old 07-07-2013, 03:32 PM   #39
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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Nobody on that Heat team is stopping 08 Kobe and Non-pussified Gasol.


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Old 07-07-2013, 03:34 PM   #40
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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Lakers played incredible competition.

Heat played historically weak competition.

No contest.

How was the Heat's journey to the championship in 2012 weak?

The Lakers played a 50-32 team in the Finals and went to 7 games against a Rockets without Yao.
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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Whats Kobe's record against LeBron led teams? LeBron owns Kobe's soul.
Lebron against Celtics in 09-10 RS:



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Old 07-07-2013, 03:37 PM   #42
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

It's hysterical that people says Miami is the most stacked team in history, but every time they are matched with another title team they always lose to them.
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Old 07-07-2013, 03:37 PM   #43
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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Heat just played the weakest first three rounds in NBA history.

Not one 50 win team. Not one.

That's mind-boggling.

Meanwhile, the 08-10 Lakers are seeing 50+ win teams from the first round.

Pathetic East.


funny how the Lakers beat the shit outta these West teams in 2008 but lose by 40 against the Celtics who struggled against their teams to get to the Finals.

just like the THunder from 2012 were beating the shit outta of defending champs Mavs, Lakers, and the team with the best record in the NBA in the Spurs but go against a 2nd seeded east team in the Heat and lose... in 5 games
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Default Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat

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It's hysterical that people says Miami is the most stacked team in history, but every time they are matched with another title team they always lose to them.

They are stacked, but they would lose to any championship team of substance and character.

Maybe a injury free or non-lockout playoffs would help.
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Lakers 1st round opponent in 2008/2009/2010 (Thunder/Jazz) were at least as good as the Heat's ECF opponent. That's how pathetic the East was.

And this gives the Heat a major disadvantage because they can literally coast through rounds and still win, which means greater energy for the late stages. The Lakers didn't have that luxury. They were facing 50+ win teams with multiple All-Stars from the beginning. It's not even close.
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