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Old 05-24-2013, 03:21 PM   #1
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Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:22 PM   #2
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:23 PM   #3
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:31 PM   #4
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Jordan is the GOAT so he's better at everything than Kobe.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:33 PM   #5
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Default Re: Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?

this forum is a mess

embarasing thread after embarasing thread. give bans to all the idiots that make a lebron/kobe thread every 3 minutes.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:35 PM   #6
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Default Re: Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?

Jordan was better than Kobe at literally every aspect of basketball.

Kobe is a bigger fan of the game though and that deserves respect.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:04 PM   #7
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Kobe is better at defending.... in rape cases.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:03 PM   #8
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Default Re: Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?

Jordan and pretty easily. In his prime, Michael was as good a ball-hawk/defensive stopper as anyone. He was always the better help-defender than Kobe, tended to be more committed to his man than Kobe, was a better ball-thief and was a much better shot blocker than Kobe.

While Kobe in his prime can be vastly underrated as a defensive player, he was never as good as MJ in that department. And Kobe was a pretty damn good man-to-man defender. Great defensive instincts, lateral quickness, and was also great at playing the passing lanes/roaming.

Man-to-man defense is the closest argument Kobe has over MJ defensively...and IMO, MJ beats him there too.

The biggest reason MJ was the better defender was because he was also the most consistent defender. That's the truth.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:01 PM   #9
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Default Re: Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?

MJ was a tougher defender and got away with a lot more in terms of playing defense. He was also a better ball hawk and in general, a better, more effective defender than Kobe.

Kobe though, is an excellent man defender when he sets his mind to it.
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faaaak dat popularity contest called "all-D first team & 2nd team"

At defense

unc MJ (voted best NCAA defender) >>> Kobe at ages 18-20

Rookie MJ >>> Kobe at ages 21-22

Youthful MJ (!!DPOY!! winner, 2 x steals champ) >>> youthfull kobe ages 23 -27

Peak Prime MJ (1993 runner up DPOY, 1 x steals champ) >> peak prime kobe ages 28-32

twilight MJ >>>> twilight Kobe ages 33-36

senior citizen MJ (38-40) >> will be senior citizen Kobe ages 37-40
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:32 PM   #11
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Kobe is better at defending.... in rape cases.


Well played, sir.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:34 PM   #12
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Default Re: Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?

Oh, as to OP's question--which of the two won DPOY during the era of dominant defensive centers?
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Default Re: Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?

I would go with Kobe.

MJ was a good one on one defender but he couldn't cause turnovers like Kobe does.

Kobe plays one on one defense but he also plays like a safety and intercepts many passes to other players besides his own.
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I would go with Kobe.

MJ was a good one on one defender but he couldn't cause turnovers like Kobe does.

Kobe plays one on one defense but he also plays like a safety and intercepts many passes to other players besides his own.


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Old 05-24-2013, 06:47 PM   #15
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Default Re: Better defender: Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant (during their primes)?

Lol what

Although Kobe's defense hasn't been really consistent in the RS when he was getting "BS First team selections", the coaches voted him in because they know he has the ability to do that when game time, aka the playoffs roll around. And he proved in 2010 for example that even when people complained about lackadasical defense in games that didn't mean shi.t (remember those were the days LA was coasting to 1-3 seeds), his defense in playoffs was outstanding, especially in the Finals.

With all that being said, Kobe isn't touching MJ as a defender. In terms of consistency, average level of play and peak play MJ was definitely more disruptive, imposing, whatever you like to call it. I do think Kobe was a better 1v1 defender, though. But as most posters should know, it's the help D that really matters and that was MJ's strong suit, especially in transition. 1v1 situations rarely determine games.
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