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Old 05-23-2013, 07:34 PM   #31
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Only a Cleveland GM would be dumb enough to trade the #1 pick for Love. I can definately see this happening. You're talking about a franchise that had a GM so dumb that he couldn't even build a team around Bron to win the title. Mo Williams as the 2nd option. Larry Hughes before that. Brilliant decision making.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:46 PM   #32
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Only a Cleveland GM would be dumb enough to trade the #1 pick for Love. I can definately see this happening. You're talking about a franchise that had a GM so dumb that he couldn't even build a team around Bron to win the title. Mo Williams as the 2nd option. Larry Hughes before that. Brilliant decision making.
A franchise so dumb, it turned Mo Williams and Jamario Moon into Kyrie Irving.

A franchise so dumb, it turned Ramon Sessions into Tyler Zeller last year and the No. 19 pick this year.

A franchise so dumb, it has accumulated more picks and cap space than any team in the league over the next three years.
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:37 PM   #33
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Even tho Kevin Love being moved isnt likely its still a good trade idea for both teams imo. Noel does do things Cleveland could use. If he could pan out into a J.Noah caliber player that isnt a bad thing. I'm not a fan of his offensive game whatsoever but defensively he has some good potential. But if Cleveland can deal these picks for proven/established talent? That teams may want to get rid of and going in another direction? They should take advantage. I really dont see a reason in stockpiling picks because we've seen more franchises do this and show little vs those that have.

Aldridge is another intriguing name to toss out there. Another name that I'd like to hear Cavs fans thoughts on. D.Cousins. Again just tossing this name out there moreso than saying he is going to be traded. But with the amount of picks Clev has they can get Sac to hear them out. For fun if they could land Cousins would Cavs fans want him given his history?

I really think Cavs should work the f*ck out of the phones and ask teams about their players. What can happen you get hung up on?
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:53 PM   #34
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Noel will be much better than Noah

As far as this trade idea... no way. Cavs would be more inclined to offer:

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Old 05-23-2013, 08:57 PM   #35
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am i the only person who thinks kevin love is less valuable than a #1 and #19 pick? no way i would take this trade if i was the cavs.
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Default Re: Trade Idea: Cavaliers and Timberwolves

Do not want to trade Love. People seem to forget how good he was last season, he was the best PF in the game. If the Wolves make the playoffs the next two years I think he will stay.
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:11 PM   #37
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Noel will be much better than Noah

Just like Knight would be better than Irving
Just like Oden would be better than Durant
Just like Evan Turner would be better than John Wall

So now that I've owned and embarrassed you for the 35,012 time. In your own words explain how Noel will be much better than Noah. I'll wait...
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Even tho Kevin Love being moved isnt likely its still a good trade idea for both teams imo. Noel does do things Cleveland could use. If he could pan out into a J.Noah caliber player that isnt a bad thing. I'm not a fan of his offensive game whatsoever but defensively he has some good potential. But if Cleveland can deal these picks for proven/established talent? That teams may want to get rid of and going in another direction? They should take advantage. I really dont see a reason in stockpiling picks because we've seen more franchises do this and show little vs those that have.

Aldridge is another intriguing name to toss out there. Another name that I'd like to hear Cavs fans thoughts on. D.Cousins. Again just tossing this name out there moreso than saying he is going to be traded. But with the amount of picks Clev has they can get Sac to hear them out. For fun if they could land Cousins would Cavs fans want him given his history?

I really think Cavs should work the f*ck out of the phones and ask teams about their players. What can happen you get hung up on?
I'm definitely not against making calls and looking seriously at all options, but the more tape I watch of Noel, the more I'm loving his potential. I knew he was athletic, but he's even a better athlete than I thought a couple days ago.

I saw one video in particular where he was showing off his handle. Damn impressive for a 7-footer. I also think he has the potential to develop a really tough face-up game. The guy has an explosive first step for his size and a nice handle for a 5.

I know that everyone is jumping on the "this draft sucks" bandwagon, but I'm seeing just why this kid was so highly sought after coming out of high school. He is oozing talent.

If his medical checks out well, I think I prefer just to hold onto the pick and take him. Lots of people saying there's no franchise player in this draft (I heard the same nonsense in 2011). If Noel comes back strong from the injury, his ceiling is very high, imo.

Kevin Garnett was widely considered a super athletic defensive specialist who also happened to be a twig coming out of high school. No one could have foreseen then his drive to become a great player and how that offensive game would come around.


I believe a Kyrie-Noel-Dion-Tristan foursome would have the potential to be beastly in a few years. That is a hell of a lot of talent and athleticism, right there.... Topped off by the guy many think is already the best young player in the league.

I couldn't be more sold at this point unless we get bad news about his knee.
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am i the only person who thinks kevin love is less valuable than a #1 and #19 pick? no way i would take this trade if i was the cavs.

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Just like Knight would be better than Irving
Just like Oden would be better than Durant
Just like Evan Turner would be better than John Wall

So now that I've owned and embarrassed you for the 35,012 time. In your own words explain how Noel will be much better than Noah. I'll wait...
I truly believe Noel is far more of a natural athlete than Noah. And that's saying something, because Noah is a very good athlete.

I'm telling you, GOBB. Watch the tape. Kid has a crazy combination of size, length, mobility and hops. We all know his game has many visible flaws at this stage, but you don't take an 18-19 year old because he's a finished product. He's a pretty rare talent.
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I'm definitely not against making calls and looking seriously at all options, but the more tape I watch of Noel, the more I'm loving his potential. I knew he was athletic, but he's even a better athlete than I thought a couple days ago.

I saw one video in particular where he was showing off his handle. Damn impressive for a 7-footer. I also think he has the potential to develop a really tough face-up game. The guy has an explosive first step for his size and a nice handle for a 5.

I know that everyone is jumping on the "this draft sucks" bandwagon, but I'm seeing just why this kid was so highly sought after coming out of high school. He is oozing talent.

If his medical checks out well, I think I prefer just to hold onto the pick and take him. Lots of people saying there's no franchise player in this draft (I heard the same nonsense in 2011). If Noel comes back strong from the injury, his ceiling is very high, imo.

Kevin Garnett was widely considered a super athletic defensive specialist who also happened to be a twig coming out of high school. No one could have foreseen then his drive to become a great player and how that offensive game would come around.


I believe a Kyrie-Noel-Dion-Tristan foursome would have the potential to be beastly in a few years. That is a hell of a lot of talent and athleticism, right there.... Topped off by the guy many think is already the best young player in the league.

I couldn't be more sold at this point unless we get bad news about his knee.

Draft not top heavy to me. I think after Noel/McLemore I'm not really impressed by the rest of the class. I dont think the draft is weak in terms of not adding quality, starter quality talent. But impact guys? Lacking imo. I do like Noel because I'm a guy who likes big men that rebound/defend. Which would explain why I even mentioned Noah/Noel in the same sentence. Not to compare their games but I think they are talents you would love to have on your roster. I dont think Cavs lose either way be it they keep the pick or deal it for a proven talent.

But I do think your team needs to consider that adding young talent every year can go but so far. It looks good on paper to look at young talent then daydream into what they could be based on potential. But I really think Cavs have the assets to put together a really damn good playoff contender. Not one by default either, one that is legitimate if they move some assets for proven players. Again cant hurt either way but I think Cavs right now are in position to take advantage of a team or teams that are suckers for draft picks or just want to go in a different direction. Rudy Gay was dealt to Toronto for what exactly? Cavs are in position to really turn things around now if they dont want to wait. But again either way they are in a good position.

you guys can have Evan turner if you want.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:17 PM   #42
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Just like Knight would be better than Irving
Just like Oden would be better than Durant
Just like Evan Turner would be better than John Wall

So now that I've owned and embarrassed you for the 35,012 time. In your own words explain how Noel will be much better than Noah. I'll wait...
I said Cousins should have been the #1 pick over Wall.

I said Oden would be better than Durant. Injuries played a role there. You can ask Durant how injuries can change things quickly.

And I never said Knight would be better than Irving.

On to Noel vs Noah...

Noah is a guy who plays with a fire that supersedes his physical gifts, meaning he's limited skillwise but makes up for it with his passion for the game.

Noel is basically the best defensive prospect I've seen since Olajuwon. He's that premier of a talent on defense. He's bigger, longer, and more athletic than Noah. They are on dramatically different spheres when it's comes to talent comparison. Noel is a generation-defining defensive prospect, Noah is not.
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yet he was the only US team player that hold his ground againts spain when gasol went ham in the final
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I actually agree with him to. I don't think Love is worth that much either.
Don't get me wrong, I think Love is a damned good player but I would be looking for more if I was the Cavs at the moment. Unless more is thrown into the trade. Im with RBA. Just roll the dice with Noel and see where the numbers land.
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Just like Knight would be better than Irving
Just like Oden would be better than Durant
Just like Evan Turner would be better than John Wall

So now that I've owned and embarrassed you for the 35,012 time. In your own words explain how Noel will be much better than Noah. I'll wait...
You are the one that said that, dumass.
Remember giving me a fat neg two years ago, when i sad Turner will be a bust? Well guess what, b*tch.
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