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Old 05-22-2013, 03:53 PM   #16
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You could do post-shotclock (55-present) or 3pt era (80-present). I'm a big fan/researcher of older greats, but I feel like the latter might be easier since all of those Finals are available online, as well as a few games of the rest of the series (a lot of the ECF/WCF are complete).
In my opinion it would be best to do all-time, so we don't leave the old era behind.
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Hekeem olajuwon conference finals 1995 : 35.3PPG , 12.5 RPG, 5APG, 4.2 Blocks/game.
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Shaq in 2000: 38.0 16.7 2.3 61.1%

I don't care about PER or any of that BS, best performance EVER.
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In my opinion it would be best to do all-time, so we don't leave the old era behind.

I would agree, but it's difficult to compare if we can't watch the series, so a lot would depend on box scores and anecdotes. It's up to you though, obviously.
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http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=231861
There are pretty good candidates.
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Where did you get the eff numbers?
Would be cool to see a list of the highest eff playoff series all-time.
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Where did you get the eff numbers?
Would be cool to see a list of the highest eff playoff series all-time.
I calculated myself. It would be impossible for me to calculate every eff numbers. But what I have is;


There is no available data about turnovers for 1977 NBA Finals.

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I calculated myself. It would be impossible for me to calculate every eff numbers. But what I have is;

There is no available data about turnovers for 1977 NBA Finals.

Nothing official. I'll see if I can find anything.
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Team turnovers (official at the time):

G1: POR 34 PHI 20
G2: POR 29 PHI 23
G3: PHI 20 POR 16
G4: PHI 30 POR 19
G5: POR 24 PHI 18
G6: PHI 21 POR 27

Numbers from the 77-78 NBA Media Guide. All the games from the Finals are available online, so I guess someone could watch them to record the turnovers.
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I calculated myself. It would be impossible for me to calculate every eff numbers. But what I have is;


There is no available data about turnovers for 1977 NBA Finals.
Okay. Hmm 02 Kobe wasn't good enough to get on there?
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Okay. Hmm 02 Kobe wasn't good enough to get on there?
The right side players were the best players on those team or had a case to be called like that. So this criteria leaves out Kobe in threepeat seasons.

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Team turnovers (official at the time):

G1: POR 34 PHI 20
G2: POR 29 PHI 23
G3: PHI 20 POR 16
G4: PHI 30 POR 19
G5: POR 24 PHI 18
G6: PHI 21 POR 27

Numbers from the 77-78 NBA Media Guide. All the games from the Finals are available online, so I guess someone could watch them to record the turnovers.
I meant individual numbers. There is no chance other than watching the entire series to talk about that.

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The right side players were the best players on those team or had a case to be called like that. So this criteria leaves out Kobe in threepeat seasons.


I meant individual numbers. There is no chance other than watching the entire series to talk about that.

Yeah, can't seem to find any. It's not worth it just to watch for tracking Walton's turnovers, so maybe someone should also put a shooting map together (like PHILA did for a few players, great stuff). I'll have some free time next week, so I'll do it if I have a chance. I watched it for the first time a couple of years ago, Dr. J looked incredible.
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Here are MJ's best playoff series:


vs. Bucks, 1985 - 29.3 pts/5.8 reb/8.5 ast/2.8 stl/1.0 blk/44% FG

vs. Boston, 1986 - 43.7 pts/6.3 reb/5.7 ast/2.3 stl/1.3 blk/51% FG

vs. Boston, 1987 - 35.7 pts/7.0 reb/6.0 ast/2.0 stl/2.3 blk/42% FG

vs. Cavs, 1988 - 45.2 pts/5.4 reb/4.8 ast/2+ stl/1+ blk/56% FG (back-to-back games of 50+ pts)

vs. Cavs, 1989 - 40.0 pts/5.8 reb/8.2 ast/2+ stl/1 blk/53% FG

vs. Knicks, 1989 - 35.8 pts/9.5 reb/8.3 ast/2+ stl/1 blk/55% FG

vs. Bucks, 1990 - 36.8 pts/8.0 reb/7.0 ast/3 stl/1+ blk/54% FG

vs. Philly, 1990 - 43.0 pts/6.6 reb/7.4 ast/3 stl/1+ blk/55+% FG (3 consecutive 45+ point games - 45,49,45)

vs. Detroit, 1990 - 32.1 pts/7.1 reb/6.3 ast/2+ stl/1 blk/47% FG

vs. Philly, 1991 - 33.4 pts/8.0 reb/7.8 ast/1.8 stl/1.4 blk/49% FG

vs. Lakers, 1991 - 31.2 pts/6.6 reb/11.4 ast/2.8 stl/1.4 blk/56% FG

vs. Miami, 1992 - 45.0 pts/9.7 reb/6.7 ast/3 stl/1 blk/61% FG

vs. Portland, 1992 - 35.8 pts/4.8 reb/6.5 ast/2 stl/53% FG

vs. Phoenix, 1993 - 41.0 pts/8.5 reb/6.3 ast/2 stl/1 blk/51% FG

vs. Bullets, 1997 - 37.3 pts/5.7 reb/5.3 ast/1 stl/57% FG

vs. Nets, 1998 - 36.3 pts/5.0 reb/2.8 ast/1+ stl/1 blk/53% FG


In case you're wondering, Jordan's career playoff averages upon retirement in 1993 (24 series and 111 playoff games in total) were 35.8 pts/6.7 reb/6.7 ast/2.4 stl/1.1 blk/51.5% FG. Basically a 36/7/7/2.4/1.1/52% career playoff average through age 30. Sickness.
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