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Old 04-21-2013, 07:22 AM   #1306
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the us should go to war against the czechs now cant have some countries like that damage you
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:26 AM   #1307
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the us should go to war against the czechs now cant have some countries like that damage you
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Bullshit dude. The KKK, Nazis, Putin, etc. didn't kill people in the name of Christianity. The fact that they were Christians had nothing to do with their evil actions. These terrorists are killing people in the name of Islam/Jihad/Allah. Their actions have everything to do with Islam.

I'm not saying Christians have a spotless history, either. They have done some really ****ed up things throughout history. The difference is Christianity has evolved while Islam is stuck in the ****ing stone ages. The way muslims treat women and anybody who isn't part of their religion is barbaric.

Islam needs to get with the 21st century or get the **** off this planet because the civilized world is getting real tired of your shit.

The whole of the middle-east should have been blown to oblivion years ago..
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:44 AM   #1308
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Bmulls look, i wont even bother to show you why you are incorrect... at the end of the day ALL religions have been equally bad.

No matter how ignorant & racist you are in this subject the main problem with muslims in some of those countries in the middle-east right now is economic, not dogmatic.... Those Islamic countries (the ones that come up in the news regularly) are full of valuable natural resources, and ignorant poor people. In this kind of climate & situation, religion becomes a tool that is easily indoctrinated inside their minds to whip up people into a rage. Even peaceful Buddhism was used to inspire the troops of Japan....

In Aghanistan etc. for example the best way to fix those poor countries is to make the people in that country more financially secure, give them education or something of the kind.... and peace will follow..... Instead of doing what America does/did, which was more closer to the opposite... Most non-Americans feels the exact same way on this one and im sure some Americans feel that to... To even leave those countries alone would help in a big way, because im sure some innocent people of both sides would not die...

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Old 04-21-2013, 08:34 AM   #1309
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Bmulls look, i wont even bother to show you why you are incorrect... at the end of the day ALL religions have been equally bad.

No matter how ignorant & racist you are in this subject the main problem with muslims in some of those countries in the middle-east right now is economic, not dogmatic.... Those Islamic countries (the ones that come up in the news regularly) are full of valuable natural resources, and ignorant poor people. In this kind of climate & situation, religion becomes a tool that is easily indoctrinated inside their minds to whip up people into a rage. Even peaceful Buddhism was used to inspire the troops of Japan....

In Aghanistan etc. for example the best way to fix those poor countries is to make the people in that country more financially secure, give them education or something of the kind.... and peace will follow..... Instead of doing what America does/did, which was more closer to the opposite... Most non-Americans feels the exact same way on this one and im sure some Americans feel that to... To even leave those countries alone would help in a big way, because im sure some innocent people of both sides would not die...
Jews and Buddhists beg to differ. Their atrocities are nowhere close to those committed by other major religions. How come these religions can operate relatively peacefully and others can't?

What about Zoroastrians and Amish? Can't think of anything they've done wrong.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:44 AM   #1310
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The whole of the middle-east should have been blown to oblivion years ago..

Wow! and here's what's wrong with America. Judging a whole race of people based on a few bad apples.

I know many people from the Middle East and they are some of the nicest people I know. They are human beings like you and me. Don't have a 'Hate first mentality' learn about the people first, then make a judgment.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:01 AM   #1311
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Jews and Buddhists beg to differ. Their atrocities are nowhere close to those committed by other major religions. How come these religions can operate relatively peacefully and others can't?

What about Zoroastrians and Amish? Can't think of anything they've done wrong.

The Baha'i Faith and Baha'is beg to differ as well. Less than 200 years old however...but it is a major religion...the most widespread religion today.

Go read up their history and how they have been treated and stripped of their rights all across the Middle East, but more so in Iran. Disgusting.

With that said I blame all that on fanaticism and religious leaders giving wrong interpretations of the sacred readings. Not everything is meant to be taken literally, lots of it is symbolic. Then sprinkle in the fact people will follow others direction with blind faith. That's the problem. You can't just go with the flow of your family and not do your own reading and investigation of the truth.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:02 AM   #1312
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Wow! and here's what's wrong with America. Judging a whole race of people based on a few bad apples.

I know many people from the Middle East and they are some of the nicest people I know. They are human beings like you and me. Don't have a 'Hate first mentality' learn about the people first, then make a judgment.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:02 AM   #1313
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The Baha'i Faith and Baha'is beg to differ as well. Less than 200 years old however...but it is a major religion...the most widespread religion today.

Go read up their history and how they have been treated and stripped of their rights all across the Middle East, but more so in Iran. Disgusting.

With that said I blame all that on fanaticism and religious leaders giving wrong interpretations of the sacred readings. Not everything is meant to be taken literally, lots of it is symbolic. Then sprinkle in the fact people will follow others direction with blind faith. That's the problem. You can't just go with the flow of your family and not do your own reading and investigation of the truth.
what do you mean by this?
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:26 AM   #1314
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I'm not saying Christians have a spotless history, either. They have done some really ****ed up things throughout history. The difference is Christianity has evolved while Islam is stuck in the ****ing stone ages. The way muslims treat women and anybody who isn't part of their religion is barbaric.
You're wrong, it wasn't Christianity that "evolved" it was some humans that evolved and started to give two shits about Christianity... Christianity "evolution" is nothing but a corporation trying to keep their clients.

Christianity have killed like 10x more than Islam throughout history.

Were was al-quaeda 20,30 years ago? Why don't they attack Sweden or Ireland or whatever? can you respond that? So muslims only became "evil" a few year ago? And they are only evil to the USA?

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Former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer argues that terrorist attacks (specifically al-Qaeda attacks on America) are not motivated by a religiously inspired hatred of American culture or religion, but by the belief that U.S. foreign policy has oppressed, killed, or otherwise harmed Muslims in the Middle East,[11] condensed in the phrase "They hate us for what we do, not who we are." U.S. foreign policy actions Scheuer believes are fueling Islamic terror include: the U.S.-led intervention in Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq; Israel–United States relations, namely, financial, military, and political support for Israel.;[12][13][14][15][16] U.S. support for "apostate" police states in Muslim nations such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, Algeria, Morocco, and Kuwait;[17] U.S. support for the creation of an independent East Timor from territory previously held by Muslim Indonesia; perceived U.S. approval or support of actions against Muslim insurgents in India, the Philippines, Chechnya, and Palestine;[18] U.S. troops on Muslim 'holy ground' in Saudi Arabia; the Western world's religious discrimination against Muslim immigrants'; historical justification, such as the Crusades.

Christianity evolved? That's funny because it was pretty much your christian right wing nutjobs that you put on office that brought the terrorism upon USA, it's incredibly obvious for anyone that hasn't their head wrapped around a star spangled banner and shoved in their red neck asses.


Someone that born in a country that almost elected a person for the white house that don't believe dinosaurs existed, have no right to talk how backwards other people are.

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Old 04-21-2013, 10:38 AM   #1315
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If these 2 brothers were not guilty they would have gone to the police right away after the FBI photos were shown to the public.

Just like these men did.


The kid in the blue track-suit was like... oh sh*t thats me. Then he went straight to the police to clear his name.

The conspiracy theorist would say that they did come forward, got thrown into a dark room with black bags over their heads as they police fabricated a scenario for their encounter with them in the streets. The two suspects were taken to a "simulation room" where the events were played out so their bodies received the same damage as they would have out in the streets. Then, they were taken and dumped at the location of the supposed "shoot-out".
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:20 AM   #1316
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Wow! and here's what's wrong with America. Judging a whole race of people based on a few bad apples.

I know many people from the Middle East and they are some of the nicest people I know. They are human beings like you and me. Don't have a 'Hate first mentality' learn about the people first, then make a judgment.

Actually, that clown is Australian.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:23 AM   #1317
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The conspiracy theorist would say that they did come forward, got thrown into a dark room with black bags over their heads as they police fabricated a scenario for their encounter with them in the streets. The two suspects were taken to a "simulation room" where the events were played out so their bodies received the same damage as they would have out in the streets. Then, they were taken and dumped at the location of the supposed "shoot-out".

Sounds like a plausible scenario.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:55 AM   #1318
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Bullshit dude. The KKK, Nazis, Putin, etc. didn't kill people in the name of Christianity. The fact that they were Christians had nothing to do with their evil actions. These terrorists are killing people in the name of Islam/Jihad/Allah. Their actions have everything to do with Islam.

I'm not saying Christians have a spotless history, either. They have done some really ****ed up things throughout history. The difference is Christianity has evolved while Islam is stuck in the ****ing stone ages. The way muslims treat women and anybody who isn't part of their religion is barbaric.

Islam needs to get with the 21st century or get the **** off this planet because the civilized world is getting real tired of your shit.


Some do kill because they actually feel religiously mandated to do so, the major architects behind terrorist networks operate almost solely on a political basis. They only use religion as a banner to attract young, ignorant and often impoverished men to come follow their cause. It's easy to gain followers when you operate in a land with a dim outlook. If for nothing else, it offers a job opportunity and a feeling of brotherhood and fraternity. Let's look at some of the major terrorist groups from the middle east:

Hezbollah: formed after Israel invaded Lebanon and lead a horrid occupation of the southern half of Lebanon that reached its nadir with the Sabra and Shatila massacre. Proposed ultimate goal is the elimination of Israel, but that's just a tactic to gain more followers since their initial goal was to remove Israel from Lebanon (which they have since been).

Hamas: formed after twenty years of discontent over Israel's mismanagement of the occupied territories culminated in the First Intifada. It's original goal is still yet to be fulfilled.

Al-Qaeda: formed near the very end of the Afghan-Soviet war from MAK. This group probably places more emphasis on religion than any other of these three groups, but even then the roots behind its anti-western doctrine are mostly political. Hatred towards the US was directly a result of Operation Desert Shield, and what was bin-Laden mostly concerned with? When it comes down to it, contracting. But saying that the U.S. has desecrated sacred soil is good for recruitment.

But why focus so much on Middle Eastern Islam? After all, Islam is a worldwide religion (some 17% of all muslims worldwide call the Middle East home). So let's take a look at the most populous Muslim-majority nation: Indonesia. True, Indonesia does have its fair share of terrorism, but most of it is linked to separatist groups. Jemaah Islamiyah is probably the most active islamic terrorist group, but it's linked with al-Qaeda, so it's really no more than just an extension of AQ's goals into southeastern Asia as a means of reaching more western targets (specifically western tourist hot spots).

And please, let's keep this civil. Whatever happened to debates? Now all we have are "arguments" which are basically debates with insults thrown in every couple sentences.

Someone said all religions have done equally bad things, but I don't agree with that. However I do believe islam is the most misunderstood of the major religions and it is, when interpreted correctly, a religion of peace.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:57 AM   #1319
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Actually, that clown is Australian.

My bad.

But the fact still remains, that kind of mentality has to change. I find it funny that anytime a major crime is committed people want to see where the person is from or his race, first. So if he's an Arab, then the whole middle east are war-mongers, or if he's black than all black people are bad. But if he's a white American guy(Timothy McVeigh for example), then he's just individually mentally unstable, and he alone is to blame.

Hypocrites in da broad daylight.....
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So as far as we know for now...big brother became radicalized in Chechnya 2 years ago, but was never ordered by anyone to attack America. Came back as a lunatic and dragged his little brother into this.

It will be interesting to see how little brother is treated now by authorities and the law in comparison to Holmes (Dark Knight Shooter)...if there is no outside terrorist connection, is this bombing worse than that shooting? Or is it the "terrorism" label that plays as a trump card...then again it makes some sense that this bombing is more "similar" to 9/11.
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