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Old 04-21-2013, 10:34 PM   #1306
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Some people in this thread are trying to differentiate deaths caused by senseless acts of violence & war and all of you are being dishonest when you try to do that...

when people live through war and violence they will have hatred and want revenge for it...

you can make all the excuses you want but it doesnt change reality..

innocent people will pay for it on both sides... thats what the Boston bombing proves..

Until people understand that and be honest with themselves? it will keep happening.

hatred and ignorance will breed more hatred and violence...

its really that simple.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:51 PM   #1307
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How much flak should and will the FBI get for letting big brother slip through the cracks?
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:57 PM   #1308
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lol @ people equating war and terrorism. A sentiment an Islamic extremist would likely share.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:18 PM   #1309
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:18 PM   #1310
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:46 PM   #1311
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lol @ people equating war and terrorism. A sentiment an Islamic extremist would likely share.

Terrorism is a type of war. When you don't have the resources, money or people to engage in a full scale war what do you do? You work around the system. They are essentially trying to destroy the system from within, and they've done more damage to the country than they could have possibly done in a traditional war.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:21 AM   #1312
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Terrorism is a type of war. When you don't have the resources, money or people to engage in a full scale war what do you do? You work around the system. They are essentially trying to destroy the system from within, and they've done more damage to the country than they could have possibly done in a traditional war.
Yes, but intentional targeting of civilians will always be dismissed as cowardly, even if it has a major impact on "the system."

I don't think a cause or a group will ever successfully complete their goals by partaking in or commissioning this kind of tactic as their main weapon. It shows more desperation than anything else.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:24 AM   #1313
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People need to stop blaming religion in general and start blaming PEOPLE

MEN are doing bad things in the world...religions are just the excuse




If religion didn't exist there would STILL be terrorists...there would STILL be men raping women...Women would STILL be treated as less than human in some areas...etc etc etc

Religion isn't the problem...people are the problem...
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:28 AM   #1314
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People need to stop blaming religion in general and start blaming PEOPLE

MEN are doing bad things in the world...religions are just the excuse




If religion didn't exist there would STILL be terrorists...there would STILL be men raping women...Women would STILL be treated as less than human in some areas...etc etc etc

Religion isn't the problem...people are the problem...
The human race certainly does seem like a virus on this planet. And, people have more primitive beast in them than most people are comfortable admitting.

Still, I don't think religion helps.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:28 AM   #1315
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People need to stop blaming religion in general and start blaming PEOPLE

MEN are doing bad things in the world...religions are just the excuse




If religion didn't exist there would STILL be terrorists...there would STILL be men raping women...Women would STILL be treated as less than human in some areas...etc etc etc

Religion isn't the problem...people are the problem...

Yes. Ultimately it's our nature. If there wasn't religion we'd find another way
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:46 AM   #1316
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Yes. Ultimately it's our nature. If there wasn't religion we'd find another way

I agree and disagree. I think a lot of the people running this kind of thing are using religion (or rather abusing religion) to get what they want. Unfortunately the people that fall for it are people who are already religious (and probably quite fundamentalist). If there was no religion in the first place then I think it would be harder for extremist groups to recruit new members. Religion in some cases opens up susceptibility to extremist behaviour. With or without religion there will be always be conflicts, but religion does increase the number of conflicts overall simply because it gives people another thing to fight about.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:53 AM   #1317
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Religion is a major problem.

If people weren't inclined to believe in myths like an eternal, paradise-like, after-life, that rewards their acts of violence, you bet your ass plenty of them would be reconsidering their irrational actions.

How do you reason with someone who is looking forward to death? Someone who believes so strongly that their violent actions will be rewarded by their God? You can't.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:54 AM   #1318
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I agree and disagree. I think a lot of the people running this kind of thing are using religion (or rather abusing religion) to get what they want. Unfortunately the people that fall for it are people who are already religious (and probably quite fundamentalist). If there was no religion in the first place then I think it would be harder for extremist groups to recruit new members. Religion in some cases opens up susceptibility to extremist behaviour. With or without religion there will be always be conflicts, but religion does increase the number of conflicts overall simply because it gives people another thing to fight about.


you are absolutely right.... Religion is a tool...its sometimes used to manipulate people's emotions... it's alot like fear and anger.. if you can get those emotions pumping inside people's hearts? you can motivate them to do some of the most unthinkable things

I am just grateful that there isnt a better more efficient tool...
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:16 AM   #1319
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I am just grateful that there isnt a better more efficient tool...

The problem is tools don't have to work alone. Couple religion with nationalism or some other ism and you've got one.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:35 AM   #1320
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I heard a quote once, sorry I can't remember who said it, but it goes something like this

"With or without religion, there would be good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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