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Old 03-19-2013, 08:57 PM   #46
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Default Re: A Healthy Miami Heat Without Lebron Would Still Make The NBA Finals

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The Heat do worse with Ray on the floor a lot of the time. He's not a star anymore.
In the beginning of the season, he hit like 5+ game winners and gave the heat tons of wins. In the playoffs, this is the exact type of guy you need, the guy that will kill you. He'll single handedly give the Heat a few wins.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:59 PM   #47
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In the beginning of the season, he hit like 5+ game winners and gave the heat tons of wins. In the playoffs, this is the exact type of guy you need, the guy that will kill you. He'll single handedly give the Heat a few wins.
Do you know what "single handedly" means? I don't think you do, because Ray hasn't "single handedly" won a game for the Heat all year.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:02 PM   #48
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Do you know what "single handedly" means? I don't think you do, because Ray hasn't "single handedly" won a game for the Heat all year.
Let me rephrase that for you then. Without Ray, Heat would not have won those games.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:33 PM   #49
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In the beginning of the season, he hit like 5+ game winners and gave the heat tons of wins. In the playoffs, this is the exact type of guy you need, the guy that will kill you. He'll single handedly give the Heat a few wins.
By "5+", I think you meant "3". All of them assisted by Lebron, btw.
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I wouldn't guarantee Finals (still wouldn't with Lebron).

But they would be right there for the top seed in the conference, and probably leading. That says a lot.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:22 PM   #51
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No doubt. And the chances of winning them increases.
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Lakers are 2-1 without Kobe. LeBron is the heart and soul of the Miami Heat. Without LeBron the Pacers and Celtics would have beaten them in the 2012 NBA Playoffs.
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Lakers are 2-1 without Kobe. LeBron is the heart and soul of the Miami Heat. Without LeBron the Pacers and Celtics would have beaten them in the 2012 NBA Playoffs.


Way to come out of left field with this sizzling info
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they will still make the Finals and have a legit shot at a ring
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No doubt. And the chances of winning them increases.
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They have a better chance to win it all without BronBron.. Who's gonna stop the heat if LeBron is out? You know 2011 finals..
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:01 AM   #56
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Default Re: A Healthy Miami Heat Without Lebron Would Still Make The NBA Finals

Lets flip the switch here. Replace Wade (an unselfish superstar) with Kobe (very selfish star, legendary for his 30 points on 30 shots) on this current, stacked Lakers team and they would 3-peat easily.
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Lets flip the switch here. Replace Wade (an unselfish superstar) with Kobe (very selfish star, legendary for his 30 points on 30 shots) on this current, stacked Lakers team and they would 3-peat easily.


I'll flip the switch again. Replace Lebron with Kobe on this current, stacked Lakers team, and they would 3 peat easily.


C- Dwight Howard
F- Pau Gasol
F- LeBron James
G- Jodie Meeks
G- Steve Nash

Bench: Jamison, Earl Clark, Ron Artest, Robert Sacre and Steve Blake

Looks like a much better team than the Heat on paper. LeBron is going to put up better numbers in the Mike D'Antoni offense.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:07 AM   #58
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You obviously don't watch many Heat games. The Heat fall apart at times when LeBron is on the bench. It's actually kind of sad. DWade, and Bosh just can't hold onto a lead, or keep a game in check when LeBron isn't on the court sometimes. It's like playing with the 2009 Cavs where LeBron would go to the bench with a 10 point lead, and come back down 5.
U obviously only watched the beginning when even I thought Wade lost a step cause that was actually the absolute truth, they did struggle with Bron out. However, its been the complete opposite over this 23 game streak since Wade has been healthy and the Heat fall off when Wade is out and Bron is out there without either, they are OK when bron is out there with bosh and no Wade. Im willing to bet whatever that the numbers over the last 23 games support this. Where can I find that shit at?

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Old 03-20-2013, 03:38 AM   #59
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LOL at this thread full of Pathetic Laker/Kobe stans making asinine statement after statement. Too many to even respond to them all but want to say do you guys REALLY believe some of what your writing ? I mean I really find it hard to not believe that some of these posts are nothing more than blatant trolling just to be annoying to Heat / Lebron fans. If not and you really believe what you are writing than you people really are just morons who are not that smart.

Bottom Line Heat are a lot better team with Lebron as were the Cavs and are not a championship team without him. End of discussion. They would not come Close to a 23 gm winning streak without him and probably are fighting to the last week of the season for a top 3 seed in the East. If U replace Battier in starting Lineup and Miller as the Backup with no Lebron Heat Win at least 15 less games if not more. U think Pre Allstar break Wade coming back from Injury would of Lead the Heat like Lebron did first half of the season.. not even close. Remember the first 2 moths of the season people were saying Wade lost a step ect..Lebron also opens up the whole offense for everyone else including Wade. When Teams Double its on Lebron Not Wade. Without Lebron I doubt Heat beat the Pacers or healthy Celtics team. With him they have chance to go down as one of the best teams Ever if they somehow break winning streak record and win championship.

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Wow, people sometime really don't know basketball and what being deep really means. First of all, Miami still has a pretty mediocre bench. Except for Ray Allen it's not all that. They don't have guys who can even get their own shot off. They just look good because Lebron and Wade are always out there with them at all times.

Second, this team has no front court at all. People seem to be missing that. Bosh is not your typical big guy while the rest would be at the end of the bench on most teams in the NBA. Haslem, Joel Anthony, Jarvis Varnado, Birdman and Juwan Howard are not exactly hot property. Without Lebron on your team they will have to use their front court much more and those guys won't even be close to offering anything.

In reality, this team without Lebron is Wade and Bosh + a bunch of average NBA players and probably the weakest front court in the league. And let's not forget that Chalmers will have to become a full time point guard and lead this team which would not exactly do wonders for this team.

Chalmers/Cole
Wade/Allen
Battier/Miller
Haslem/Lewis/Juwan
Bosh/Birdman/Varnado

PG, One of the worst PG duo's in the league.
Good SG position
SF, complete shit on offense, good D from Battier
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C, not your traditional center, might as well move Bosh back to PF without Lebron.

NBA finals.. yeah right.
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