should dwyane wades resurection/take over/heat streak cost lebron mvp? - Page 3 - Message Board Basketball Forum

kennethgriffin · 03-16-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by All Net

Wishful thinking thread...

all i'm trying to do is save the award/ and its history/ the nba's integrity

because if they give lebron the mvp this year. they wont have an argument against giving him the next 5-7.. lebron will finish with 8-10 mvps

because all lebron will have to do is stay on a stacked team and pad his fg% to win the award. no storylines, critera changes will be possible.

if they voted based on "best player".... jordan would have 10 mvps. kobe would have 5 mvps, shaq would have 5 mvps

why is it only lebron gets the benifit of the medias biased treatment

LikeABosh · 03-16-2013, 01:23 PM

Absolutely any stat will show you how valuable Lebron is. The Heat's offensive and defensive ratings tank when Lebron is on the bench. Lebron is the MVP, deal with it ******

PJR · 03-16-2013, 01:23 PM

Ofcourse not.

Wade is overrated, a non 1st team All NBA player, vastly inferior to Kobe da gawd.

Clearly being carried by LeBron.....

Atleast this was the agenda that kennethgriffin was driving home last week.

P.S. OP is a fakkit.

HiphopRelated · 03-16-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingwillball

This.. Plenty of years prime Wade lead heat were a 40 win team. I think without lebron Bosh averages 20 but they are 45-50 win team max.. Lebron is that good and does it all for Heat. Same reason Cavs were a top team as well. He is the straw that stirs drink.

they won 43 with rookies as the next best players and 47 the next year.

#number6ix# · 03-16-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kennethgriffin

how about a guy who doesnt have an mvp yet. and has a ton less help... and plays in a way tougher confrence. and is averaging way more points. and has to overcome a cancerous pg that shoots 40%fg's and takes more shots than him. and who lost their 3rd best player via salary dumping for garbage. and whos one of only a few guys in nba history to have a 50/40/90% season ( which is nearly impossible to have if you're leading the nba in scoring.. has it even happend before? )

?

Kevin Martin is no scrub he lead every team he played for in scoring he's not the playmaker harden is but he's no scrub. When a guy is leading his team in scoring rebs ast and that team has the best record that's MVP material

tazb · 03-16-2013, 01:24 PM

If (when) LeBron gets MVP he just needs one more Finals MVP to pass Kobe. Kobe-tards are shook.

ripthekik · 03-16-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingwillball

This.. Plenty of years prime Wade lead heat were a 40 win team. I think without lebron Bosh averages 20 but they are 45-50 win team max.. Lebron is that good and does it all for Heat. Same reason Cavs were a top team as well. He is the straw that stirs drink.

Prime Wade didn't have a Bosh in his team..

please. I agree with kenneth, great points. How do you give him MVP when Wade has been the main reason for the streak anyways? (In the last 10 games, his stats are better than lebron, and he has also been very clutch and closing games)

Without lebron, heat with Wade and Bosh are still top seed in the east. So what's so valuable about lebron? He's just stat-padding in a good team. What's valuable in that?

ripthekik · 03-16-2013, 01:33 PM

If we make 2 teams.

A. 5 all stars, leading their team to 65-17
B. 1 Star, leading his team to 55-27

Should we give it to the guy in team A with the best stats, or to the 1 star in team B who is playing out of his mind?

This will put the whole thing into perspective.

arifgokcen · 03-16-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ripthekik

Prime Wade didn't have a Bosh in his team..

please. I agree with kenneth, great points. How do you give him MVP when Wade has been the main reason for the streak anyways? (In the last 10 games, his stats are better than lebron, and he has also been very clutch and closing games)

Without lebron, heat with Wade and Bosh are still top seed in the east. So what's so valuable about lebron? He's just stat-padding in a good team. What's valuable in that?

I laughed at this part more than anything else.I know you are trolling but when he was in cavs trolls like you had the same exact argument.He is statpadding because he is on a bad team.

In every case this guy is statpadding interesting

LikeABosh · 03-16-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ripthekik

If we make 2 teams.

A. 5 all stars, leading their team to 65-17
B. 1 Star, leading his team to 55-27

Should we give it to the guy in team A with the best stats, or to the 1 star in team B who is playing out of his mind?

This will put the whole thing into perspective.

WTF you talking about bruh?

kennethgriffin · 03-16-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tazb

If (when) LeBron gets MVP he just needs one more Finals MVP to pass Kobe. Kobe-tards are shook.

i doubt it..

i'l still take

5 rings
1 mvp
2 finals mvps
4 allstar mvps
11 all nba 1st teams ( nba record ) as of this season
9 all defensive 1st teams ( nba record )
15 consecutive allstar starts ( nba record )
all time scorer a few years from now
all time playoff scorer a year from now
81 point career high ( 2nd best ever )
2nd most 60 point games
3rd most 50 point games
best 15th,16th,17th year player in nba history ( best longevity )
45+ game winning shots ( most ever )

over lebrons 4-10 bogus media popularity mvp awards and his asterisk title or any other by this ring chasing colluding trio

ripthekik · 03-16-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LikeABosh

WTF you talking about bruh?

Just answer the question. Should the MVP be given to:

A. the guy with the best stats in a star-filled team- of course leading to a league best record

or

B. the 1 star in a team that is playing crazy, but does not have the best team record.

arifgokcen · 03-16-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ripthekik

If we make 2 teams.

A. 5 all stars, leading their team to 65-17
B. 1 Star, leading his team to 55-27

Should we give it to the guy in team A with the best stats, or to the 1 star in team B who is playing out of his mind?

This will put the whole thing into perspective.

Again who are those teams.Because i dont know a team that has five all stars.

Though lakers starting unit have all been all stars though you cant be talking about lakers since they have more than 27 losses.Miami has 3 all stars and one former allstar thats about it.

You cant be talking about thunder because they are better then 55-27 but worse than 65-17 and RWB is playing better than KD since allstar break.

The Iron Fist · 03-16-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy

Right, but again, who else has a case besides Lebron?

Chris Paul

All Net · 03-16-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kennethgriffin

all i'm trying to do is save the award/ and its history/ the nba's integrity

because if they give lebron the mvp this year. they wont have an argument against giving him the next 5-7.. lebron will finish with 8-10 mvps

because all lebron will have to do is stay on a stacked team and pad his fg% to win the award. no storylines, critera changes will be possible.

if they voted based on "best player".... jordan would have 10 mvps. kobe would have 5 mvps, shaq would have 5 mvps

why is it only lebron gets the benifit of the medias biased treatment

As long as Lebron keeps putting up amazing stats and keeps winning alot of games he will keep winning MVPS...