Kobe Bryant on Michael Jordan, LeBron, winning championships, etc

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Originally Posted by GOBB_Junior

I'll trade Bosh and Wade for Prime Shaq. Prime Shaq would be the best player in today's NBA.

I wish you were a GM when Shaq was traded a couple years later for Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.

[RRR3]

Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot

Its a ridiculous amount of help if it was a 2 on 2 tournament. But its not.

Unlike other NBA legends those Kobe/Shaq teams featured

- no 3rd HOFer
- no 3rd all star
- no all defensive team level role players
- no great shooters
- weak benches

Its not a ridiculous amount of help by any reasonable definition of the word.

Glen Rice wasn't a great shooter?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...AL/2001.html-3 guys over 39% on threes in regular season. Fisher 52% on threes in playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...2002.html-Some good percentages, especially Fisher.

[GOBB_Junior]

Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot

I wish you were a GM when Shaq was traded a couple years later for Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.

Shaq was past his prime in the 2004-05 NBA Off season, but he still finished 2nd in MVP voting in the regular season.

[GOBB_Junior]

Originally Posted by RRR3

Glen Rice wasn't a great shooter?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...AL/2001.html-3 guys over 39% on threes in regular season. Fisher 52% on threes in playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...2002.html-Some good percentages, especially Fisher.

He just started to watch the NBA after Kobe scored 81 points againts that Raptors Team

[Legends66NBA7]

Originally Posted by RRR3

Glen Rice wasn't a great shooter?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...AL/2001.html-3 guys over 39% on threes in regular season. Fisher 52% on threes in playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...2002.html-Some good percentages, especially Fisher.

Why does it say File Not Found ?

[Legends66NBA7]

The knock on Rice (should ask ShaqAttack for a better break down) on the Lakers is that he wasn't scoring enough as a 3rd option during the Lakers run and didn't play good defense.

Fisher's only runs that stand out to me is 01 and 08. Outside of that, it wasn't anything special.

Both were good shooters, though.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Originally Posted by GOBB_Junior

Shaq was past his prime in the 2004-05 NBA Off season, but he still finished 2nd in MVP voting in the regular season.

Then why was the market so weak for him.

[RRR3]

I didn't follow basketball at all until 2002, so I can't speak on this. I only followed TMac back then mostly
Just trolling YMF

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Originally Posted by RRR3

Glen Rice wasn't a great shooter?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...AL/2001.html-3 guys over 39% on threes in regular season. Fisher 52% on threes in playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...2002.html-Some good percentages, especially Fisher.

Glen Rice was sub 40% 3 pt shooter for the Lakers. That's not great.

Fisher also never ranked a 3pt % leader board for the Lakers.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Originally Posted by PJR

I love how Kobe makes it seem like playing with Shaq was some sort of burden or some shit.

I'm at the point now where I don't know if you n!ggas are trolling or really just dumb as hell.

[dh144498]

Kobe, the ultimate competitor.

[RRR3]

Originally Posted by Mr. I'm So Mad

Furious.

[Legends66NBA7]

Originally Posted by Mr. I'm So Rad

I'm at the point now where I don't know if you n!ggas are trolling or really just dumb as hell.

Yeah true, it's not what he said at all.

Though, I still don't see that much of difference in his numbers individually if he didn't play with Shaq. Probably does average more ppg/rpg/apg etc... efficiency might not be the same...

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Originally Posted by RRR3

Furious.

It's a feeling of pity rather than anger.

Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7

Yeah true, it's not what he said at all.

Though, I still don't see that much of difference in his numbers individually if he didn't play with Shaq. Probably does average more ppg/rpg/apg etc... efficiency might not be the same...

I don't really like indulging in hypothetical scenarios but his numbers wouldn't automatically jump much higher than they are now considering by the time he developed into a star player he had to carry a 1st option load anyway. Maybe in 2000 and 2002 he averages 26-29 ppg instead of 22 and 25 idk. I also think his efficiency would be the same. If the only difference were Shaq was gone but Kobe still had the tutelage of Phil and Tex I think he could handle more volume without his efficiency dropping much if at all. Kobe's always been right around or above average efficiency wise for most of his career since he's developed into a star/franchise player (1999-2000).

[guy]

Does anyone actually think YMF is a good poster?