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Old 03-02-2013, 11:47 PM   #1
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Default there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

we may never see another kobe, kg, lebron, tmac now because of the new rules

now all the best players coming out will forcibly be undersized unathletic college superstars that are only good because of the ncaa system

the fact is. yea for every kobe and lebron theres a few kwame/darius miles

but for every college superstar theres 100 busts

teams draft 60 players and only 2 or 3 end up being great. if lucky one every 2-3 years ends up a superstar

so what exactly was the big deal with drafting highschoolers.

are we gonna act like these big draft busts didn't go to college?

- Michael Olowokandi #1 overall
- Greg Oden #1 overall
- Hasheem Thabeet #2 overall
- Adam Morrison #3 overall
- Stromile Swift #2 overall
- Jay Williams #2 overall
- Marvin Williams #2 overall
- Derrick Favors #3 overall
- Derrick Williams #2 overall
- Enas Kanter #3 overall

and how can we forget the guy who can't beat a 50 year old

- Michael Kidd Gilchrist #2 overall

now after seeing all this evidence. i say why not go back to letting highschoolers play. theres no proof that college players are safer. theres just as much risk

the reason is that smaller players can dominate. fundimental unathletic white guys can average 30ppg... there is no way to truly judge tallent by watching their output. its more about potential/attitude/conditioning/ceiling

and you can see those things in a highschool kid aswell.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:03 AM   #2
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You can't call Derrick Williams, Favors, Kanter or MKG busts. I hope they all become all-stars so I can laugh at you.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:11 AM   #3
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List of all players drafted straight out of high school
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:11 AM   #4
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

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You can't call Derrick Williams, Favors, Kanter or MKG busts. I hope they all become all-stars so I can laugh at you.


for where they were drafted theyre busts... if they were drafted 10th-15th then maybe it wouldnt be so bad



kwame brown was able to put up 10ppg in his 3rd year like the players i mentioned... darius miles did it 4 times

but already by then they were calling those guys draft busts just because they didnt pan into the next kevin garnett

but how many college guys became the next kevin garnett? none... so why the f*ck did we have to stop drafting highschool players


we may never see another youth record or totals record be broken ever again after kobe/lebron retire

and maybe some potential future superstars never even make the nba now because their personalities clash with a college coach and he isnt given the minutes/shots
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:16 AM   #5
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's



look at that list..its around the size of a 60 man draft. and see the all the allstar/all nba highlights

then look at any other draft in nba history thats full of college guys


notice how theres allot less success compared to the highschool list on average

theres around 13 out of 60

a regular draft produces maybe 2-3 out of 60


like i said ... highschool > college by ratio
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:18 AM   #6
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

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we may never see another kobe, kg, lebron, tmac now because of the new rules

now all the best players coming out will forcibly be undersized unathletic college superstars that are only good because of the ncaa system

the fact is. yea for every kobe and lebron theres a few kwame/darius miles

but for every college superstar theres 100 busts

teams draft 60 players and only 2 or 3 end up being great. if lucky one every 2-3 years ends up a superstar

so what exactly was the big deal with drafting highschoolers.

are we gonna act like these big draft busts didn't go to college?

- Michael Olowokandi #1 overall
- Greg Oden #1 overall
- Hasheem Thabeet #2 overall
- Adam Morrison #3 overall
- Stromile Swift #2 overall
- Jay Williams #2 overall
- Marvin Williams #2 overall
- Derrick Favors #3 overall
- Derrick Williams #2 overall
- Enas Kanter #3 overall

and how can we forget the guy who can't beat a 50 year old

- Michael Kidd Gilchrist #2 overall

now after seeing all this evidence. i say why not go back to letting highschoolers play. theres no proof that college players are safer. theres just as much risk

the reason is that smaller players can dominate. fundimental unathletic white guys can average 30ppg... there is no way to truly judge tallent by watching their output. its more about potential/attitude/conditioning/ceiling

and you can see those things in a highschool kid aswell.

lol right because there is a plethora of super stars out of hs as opposed to bust. Typical idiocy from KennethGriffin/999999er

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Old 03-03-2013, 12:25 AM   #7
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

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lol right because there is a plethora of super stars out of hs as opposed to bust. Typical idiocy from KennethGriffin/999999er


theres a higher ratio of highschool allstar/all nba's than college allstar/all nba's

like i pointed out in the post above you.

look on wikipedia at all the drafts from the last 20 years. you see maybe 2-3 allstar/all nba's per 60 man draft if lucky


but theres like 13 out of like 60 since highschoolers started being drafted
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:28 AM   #8
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

There is a likelihood of more college players to be busts since there are way more drafted than HS players.

It's a numbers thing.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:28 AM   #9
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Well. HS prospects that have a chance to jump right to the pros are usually a lot better than the ones that need extra developing time in college.. So makes sense.
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

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There is a likelihood of more college players to be busts since there are way more drafted than HS players.

It's a numbers thing.


ratio is different from total

the more college players drafted doesnt change the ratio. it changes the total draft busts


it still favors highschoolers
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:09 AM   #11
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

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Well. HS prospects that have a chance to jump right to the pros are usually a lot better than the ones that need extra developing time in college.. So makes sense.

Yeah lol. Some of those guys would have been exposed in college, too. Some shine. Other times you get a guy picked high in the draft that did well in college, but whose fault is that? In most cases, it's the fault of the guy who got picked. Maybe they could have worked harder or been more mentally tough.

As for HS guys, some of them just aren't ready for it and would have been more accurately judged if they played against college comp.

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Most college players go to college because they can't make it to the NBA straight out of high school. (Some can but choose to further polish their games.)
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Default Re: there's a higher ratio of highschool drafted success's than college success's

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Well. HS prospects that have a chance to jump right to the pros are usually a lot better than the ones that need extra developing time in college.. So makes sense.
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theres a higher ratio of highschool allstar/all nba's than college allstar/all nba's

Of course there are, because they are the elite of the elite. The super-talents that were considered good enough to skip college.
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