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Old 03-01-2013, 01:54 PM   #1
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Default Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

You may have to look him up on youtube, but Amare was a very explosive player in 05 before his micro-fracture surgery. And Shawn Kemp was very explosive before he got fat during the 99 lockout.

Do you see any difference between them? Was one better than the other?
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:01 PM   #2
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

Kemp seemed to actually understand the basic fundamentals of playing defense. Giving the correct effort he could be not a liability on the defensive end. Amare can put forth all the effort in the world on defense, he's still a liability because he seems to lack the basic fundamentals of the defensive game.
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:20 PM   #3
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

well a very stiff version of kemp
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:53 PM   #4
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

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Kemp seemed to actually understand the basic fundamentals of playing defense. Giving the correct effort he could be not a liability on the defensive end. Amare can put forth all the effort in the world on defense, he's still a liability because he seems to lack the basic fundamentals of the defensive game.

Not really. Kemp was a fouling machine. He led the league in total fouls three times in his career and basically averaged 4fpg throughout his prime. There is a reason he never played more than 35.1mpg in any season of his career...and that's because he couldn't stay on the court because he was always in foul trouble. There is no doubt he was a better defensive player than Amare but Shawn Kemp was always a low IQ basketball player.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:58 PM   #5
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

The difference was Kemp is a pothead and an idiot with like more than 10+ kids while Amare is just a wannabe metrosexual.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:26 PM   #6
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

Kemp was a better overall player. Easy to dismiss him now but in his day he was formidable. He'd do great in today's league of undersized centers.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:02 AM   #7
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

Today's dunkers do "slap ins"

And if you are in Seattle, check out oskar's kitchen. This restaurant is owned by Kemp. I atr there once and it's delicious.

Am are doesn't own a restaurant so Kemp has one up on that.
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

People are really overrating Shawn Kemp. He was a fantastic athlete with a horrible basketball IQ...and IQ in general. The way the guys life has gone is enough to show you that, but he wasn't exactly basketball smart either. He was clearly a player lived off on his physical gifts and not intelligence or hard work.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:31 AM   #9
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

I don't really agree. He played too aggressively but he wasn't low IQ. And he was a very good defender. He may have gotten into foul trouble but he was a strong defender in the post and in man situations. He was quick on rotations and a solid help defender, also a great shot-blocker.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:51 AM   #10
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

During Kemp's time in Portland, I remember seeing him make a few pretty incredible passes. I was too young during his prime to really remember if that was a part of his game or not back then.

I don't know if I've ever seen Amare make any kind of pass that made me go "wow."
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

kemp had way more game
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:20 AM   #12
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

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Kemp seemed to actually understand the basic fundamentals of playing defense. Giving the correct effort he could be not a liability on the defensive end. Amare can put forth all the effort in the world on defense, he's still a liability because he seems to lack the basic fundamentals of the defensive game.
But remember, Amar'e was never taught defense in his life
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

I actually think amar'e was 25-30 pounds heavier than kemp and maybe an inch or two taller ... amar'e always seemed considerably bigger

kemp had a more traditional game and amar'e is more pick and roll finisher who has the defensive iq of a toddler
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:00 PM   #14
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Default Re: Is there a difference between 2005 Amare and slim Shawn Kemp?

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Kemp was a better overall player. Easy to dismiss him now but in his day he was formidable. He'd do great in today's league of undersized centers.

better than the amar'e who put 40 on tim duncan for the series?
remember amar'e was 25/8 two years ago, he averages 21/9 for his career.
that's basically kemp's peak numbers.

amar'e dominance on offense clearly outweighs whatever advantage kemp has on d (as stated before, kemp was a foul prone knucklehead on d).

2005 STAT was a specially gifted player.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #15
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Today's dunkers do "slap ins"

And if you are in Seattle, check out oskar's kitchen. This restaurant is owned by Kemp. I atr there once and it's delicious.

Am are doesn't own a restaurant so Kemp has one up on that.
lol Amare used to own a restaurant/nightclub called "Stoudemire's Downtown" in downtown Phoenix before he moved teams... it was OK.
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