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Old 02-27-2013, 09:29 AM   #1
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Default Highest single-season PER on record:

31.8 (Wilt Chamberlain '62)

LeBron James right now? 31.9. Yup.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:30 AM   #2
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:31 AM   #3
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

Blocks/steals weren't tracked when wilt played so he'd likely be quite a bit higher.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:31 AM   #4
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:34 AM   #5
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

Who cares?

Its essentially a formulated opinion. Someone gave certain stats a value and decided to run with it. It means exactly nothing when it comes to basketball.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:37 AM   #6
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

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Counter-argument. Lebron didn´t play in an era with a point average of over 118 ppg for the whole league. For comparison: league average for 2013 is 97.7.

It's hard to compare these things.
PER is a self adjusting stat. That's actually the best thing about it. Since the league avg is always set at 15 it automatically adjusts to pace/era and rule changes.

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:39 AM   #7
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

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Who cares?

Its essentially a formulated opinion. Someone gave certain stats a value and decided to run with it. It means exactly nothing when it comes to basketball.
I agree it's very subjective. Nobody should just rank players based on PER but it is somewhat useful comparing players who played a similar style across eras.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:42 AM   #8
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

Glad you don't just copy and paste tweets without giving the source credit. Or are you actually Tom Haberstroh?
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:54 AM   #9
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

That's fantastic by Lebron. He's playing at an extremely high level right now. But Wilt was obviously just 20x better than the competition.

And I have no idea why people are mad. Sure, you don't like Lebron but appreciate the accomplishments. You guys sound very jealous.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:57 AM   #10
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

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Blocks/steals weren't tracked when wilt played so he'd likely be quite a bit higher.

Not really sure..... not if you consider the 60s possessions/pace difference to the modern era and minutes played (per minute production), which PER kindof considers.... in the 60s the pace was insane and the superstars averaged much higher mpg...

Wilts 31.8 PER came in 1962-63 where he averaged 48.5 MPG for example and where the league averaged 118.8 ppg, the highest in the league’s history.... Furthermore, the average team in the 1962 season had an average of 152 ball possessions, also highest in league's history...

Conversely, over the past two decades in the NBA, teams have averaged about 90-100 possessions per game. Given that this difference gave players during that era 50 percent more opportunities to score, this would give Wilts 50 ppg season an adjusted scoring average of 33 ppg in today’s game. And that’s without considering having a 16-foot foul lane and competing against taller & more talented players......



Lebron this season in 48.5 MPG and 152 ball possessions per game:

48.8 PPG
14.6 RPG
13.1 APG


...and thats why his PER is a bit higher...

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Old 02-27-2013, 10:02 AM   #11
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

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Not really..... not if you consider the 60s possessions/pace difference to the modern era and minutes played (per minute production), which PER kindof considers.... in the 60s the pace was insane and the superstars averaged much higher mpg...

Wilts 31.8 PER came in 1962-63 where he averaged 48.5 MPG for example and where the league averaged 118.8 ppg, the highest in the league’s history.... Furthermore, the average team in the 1962 season had an average of 152 ball possessions, also highest in league's history...

Conversely, over the past two decades in the NBA, teams have averaged about 90-100 possessions per game. Given that this difference gave players during that era 50 percent more opportunities to score, this would give Wilts 50 ppg season an adjusted scoring average of 33 ppg in today’s game. And that’s without considering having a 16-foot foul lane and competing against taller & more talented players......



Lebron this season in 48.5 MPG and Wilts 152 ball possessions per game:

48.8 PPG
14.6 RPG
13.1 APG


...and thats why his PER is a bit higher...

Ok. But PER automatically factors in pace and MP. And wilt would likely have a huge amount of blocks it would put him higher.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:04 AM   #12
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

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Ok. But PER automatically factors in pace and MP. And wilt would likely have a huge amount of blocks it would put him higher.

True, there is a possibility.... but there is a possibility of counting the turnovers a game they had aswell back then :P
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Default Re: Highest single-season PER on record:

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Ok. But PER automatically factors in pace and MP. And wilt would likely have a huge amount of blocks it would put him higher.


He doesn't get it. He only sees: Lebron is higher. Time to fap.
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Dayum. LOL @ the notion Bron ain't better than Magic and Bird.
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Wade's PER upped by 2, I think, after today's game.
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