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Old 02-23-2013, 12:33 PM   #16
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:36 PM   #17
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Default Re: Should the Pacers leave Indiana?

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It's the birthplace of basketball and IMO the best arena in the league. Not gonna happen OP.
Are you sure?

Pacers to Vancouver?

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Rumors are starting to spread that Francesco Aquilini, owner of the NHL’s Vancouver Canucks, is reportedly expressing interest in purchasing the Indiana Pacers and moving the team to Vancouver, B.C.

Pacers co-owner Herb Simon are working as hard as they can to work out a new arena deal with the Indianapolis Capital Improvement Board and says he doesn’t want to see Indy without an NBA team.

Simon, could be using Aquilini as leverage against the Indianapolis Capital Improvement Board.

But former Sonics owner Howard Schultz also used Clay Bennett as leverage against the Washington State Legislature. And now the Sonics no longer exist.

This was posted back in 2009, and though some time has passed and the sourcing could be viewed as a bit sketchy, where there's smoke there's usually fire.
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I would love to see the Grizzlies change owners and move.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:53 PM   #19
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If tickets are 70 cents and 3 dollars a piece. I'd be in EVERY single game idc
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I am 100% in support of Colin's assertion that racism is the primary factor for the Indiana Pacers having low attendance. It's the middle of America, where the majority of residents are white. Some of them claim that basketball is boring, which is their opinion, but what else is there to do in Indiana? You're telling me that for just a few bucks, maybe as low as $20 for a group of friends to attend a game together, Pacers' games aren't worth it? What else could you possibly be doing in Indiana with your free time?

The Hoosiers are in the top 10 for NCAA basketball attendance and they have a ton of black players. You have been trolled
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Default Re: Should the Pacers leave Indiana?

There is no way the Malice in the Palace has anything to do with it. Hardly anybody would boycott watching the Pacers for the rest of their lives because of that, so you can cross that possibility off your list.

It isn't racism, either. Indiana fans had no problem supporting their team in the past.

I've got one suggestion:

1. No star power. There is no real superstar on the team that would draw fans in. Fans like good teams, but they really like to watch that one superstar player light it up.
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There is no way the Malice in the Palace has anything to do with it. Hardly anybody would boycott watching the Pacers for the rest of their lives because of that, so you can cross that possibility off your list.

It isn't racism, either. Indiana fans had no problem supporting their team in the past.

I've got one suggestion:

1. No star power. There is no real superstar on the team that would draw fans in. Fans like good teams, but they really like to watch that one superstar player light it up.

Anyone that followed the NBA would know Paul George has a very good chance to be a superstar, and is one hell of an exciting player to watch.

Not to mention towards the beginning of the year when Gerald Green was getting more run who wouldn't pay a buck to see a chance to watch him throw down in a game???
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Anyone that followed the NBA would know Paul George has a very good chance to be a superstar, and is one hell of an exciting player to watch.

Not to mention towards the beginning of the year when Gerald Green was getting more run who wouldn't pay a buck to see a chance to watch him throw down in a game???
Their name recognition isn't on the same level as Durant, Wade, LeBron, Dwight, Rose, even a guy like Harden.

Nobody who is a fan of other teams fight for tickets when Paul George and Gerald Green come to town... and casual fans in Indiana feel the same way.

Superstars bring out the fans during the regular season. Casual fans jump on the bandwagon of a good team once they are in the playoffs.
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Their name recognition isn't on the same level as Durant, Wade, LeBron, Dwight, Rose, even a guy like Harden.

Nobody who is a fan of other teams fight for tickets when Paul George and Gerald Green come to town... and casual fans in Indiana feel the same way.

Superstars bring out the fans during the regular season. Casual fans jump on the bandwagon of a good team once they are in the playoffs.

Thus the thread.


If a top 5 SF in the NBA, at 22 years old, doesn't excite people enough to come out and watch the game or one of the leagues better dunkers doesn't spark a little bit of interest for under 20 dollars for a good seat...

It may be time to consider moving.
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I've been wanting to address this issue for about a week now, but I just didn't get around to posting about it.

On the ESPN radio show The Herd, the host Colin Cowherd suggested that the reason why the Pacers have one of the lowest home-game attendances in the NBA is "because of race. There's no other explanation why people don't go to Pacers games."
Cowherd even read e-mails and posts from his Facebook page made by Indianapolis residents where fans were calling the Pacers' players "thugs," even though nobody on the current Pacers roster has been arrested for any criminal activities.

Some people cite that ticket prices are keeping them away from Pacers' games, but I just looked up the prices of Pacers' home game tickets on various websites. Here are some of the starting prices for Pacers' home games on the ticket brokering website StubHub:

vs. the GS Warriors (02/26/13): starting @ $0.70/ticket!!!

vs. the Clippers (02/28/13): tickets starting as low as $2.95/ticket.

Just look at the prices here for the rest of their home games: http://www.stubhub.com/indiana-pacers-tickets/

They may be the cheap seats, but even the lower level seats start off around $20 for most of the games.

The Pacers even have a deal for Tuesday games where "for $28, you can get a ticket to any Tuesday home game and a second one free for a friend or family member. Or, you can upgrade to the Lower Level for only $50 more."

You can be working a minimum wage job and still make enough to buy tickets to the Pacers' games.

I am 100% in support of Colin's assertion that racism is the primary factor for the Indiana Pacers having low attendance. It's the middle of America, where the majority of residents are white. Some of them claim that basketball is boring, which is their opinion, but what else is there to do in Indiana? You're telling me that for just a few bucks, maybe as low as $20 for a group of friends to attend a game together, Pacers' games aren't worth it? What else could you possibly be doing in Indiana with your free time?
cowherder is a provocateur and an idiot. There are obviously some racial issues (there are across the nba), but to ascribe the lack of support to simply race is clearly an oversimplification of the issues.
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I've been wanting to address this issue for about a week now, but I just didn't get around to posting about it.

On the ESPN radio show The Herd, the host Colin Cowherd suggested that the reason why the Pacers have one of the lowest home-game attendances in the NBA is "because of race. There's no other explanation why people don't go to Pacers games."
Cowherd even read e-mails and posts from his Facebook page made by Indianapolis residents where fans were calling the Pacers' players "thugs," even though nobody on the current Pacers roster has been arrested for any criminal activities.

Some people cite that ticket prices are keeping them away from Pacers' games, but I just looked up the prices of Pacers' home game tickets on various websites. Here are some of the starting prices for Pacers' home games on the ticket brokering website StubHub:

vs. the GS Warriors (02/26/13): starting @ $0.70/ticket!!!

vs. the Clippers (02/28/13): tickets starting as low as $2.95/ticket.

Just look at the prices here for the rest of their home games: http://www.stubhub.com/indiana-pacers-tickets/

They may be the cheap seats, but even the lower level seats start off around $20 for most of the games.

The Pacers even have a deal for Tuesday games where "for $28, you can get a ticket to any Tuesday home game and a second one free for a friend or family member. Or, you can upgrade to the Lower Level for only $50 more."

You can be working a minimum wage job and still make enough to buy tickets to the Pacers' games.

I am 100% in support of Colin's assertion that racism is the primary factor for the Indiana Pacers having low attendance. It's the middle of America, where the majority of residents are white. Some of them claim that basketball is boring, which is their opinion, but what else is there to do in Indiana? You're telling me that for just a few bucks, maybe as low as $20 for a group of friends to attend a game together, Pacers' games aren't worth it? What else could you possibly be doing in Indiana with your free time?
didnt read this last part. Are you really that dumb? African americans make up something like 14% of the nation. The majority of every nba market (outside of possibly atl, depending how you define it) is white. Also, Indy is something like 30% black. There are only something like 9 nba cities (just the metro not the media market) that have a higher %, and those are places like cleveland, detroit, memphis new orleans, milliwaukee. Only one major market has a higher % black population and that is chicago. so, basically, every city in the central division is in the top 10 in % black population. and many the other places are indy's other closest cities, like memphis.

I wonder if you, or the cow herder, have ever been to the midwest? It doesnt sound like it.
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If tickets are 70 cents and 3 dollars a piece. I'd be in EVERY single game idc

LOL...no $hit dude...i'd be all over that too!...
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Attendance has been improving as the season's gone on. Before last year the fanbase was extremely apathetic and for good reason. They weren't tanking, they weren't really winning, they were just playing. Two years ago they made the 8 seed and gave the Bulls a tough out, improvement, but who really cares after 4+ years of "might get the 8 seed!" basketball.

Last year was the first time in a long time the team was actually any good. You don't get a building full again after all those years of a bad product in a single year in a market the size of Indy. Now they're even better and people have begun to take notice and more are coming. Keep kicking ass this year, make a strong playoff run (specifically ECF) and we should be in good shape.

But if it keeps up next year yeah, there's a problem.
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Attendance has been improving as the season's gone on. Before last year the fanbase was extremely apathetic and for good reason. They weren't tanking, they weren't really winning, they were just playing. Two years ago they made the 8 seed and gave the Bulls a tough out, improvement, but who really cares after 4+ years of "might get the 8 seed!" basketball.

Last year was the first time in a long time the team was actually any good. You don't get a building full again after all those years of a bad product in a single year in a market the size of Indy. Now they're even better and people have begun to take notice and more are coming. Keep kicking ass this year, make a strong playoff run (specifically ECF) and we should be in good shape.

But if it keeps up next year yeah, there's a problem.
basically, they are at 80% capacity. Thats better than 9 other teams in the league. So, its not terrible (like my pistons), but its not great.
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As for Cowherd's rant, while he brought up some decent points about the makeup of the team being exactly what Indiana's supposedly been asking for, it was completely self serving.

His show just started playing in the Indy market again last week after a long absence. So yeah, you can figure out why he suddenly started "caring" about Pacers attendance and how "racist" the state is.
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