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Old 02-15-2013, 12:49 PM   #91
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^^ lol at kobe is the greater champion. My ass.

Give Lebron or Wade a PRIME Shaq for 8 years and either one of them win 5 rings, not just 3 in 8 years.

Give Lebron a dominant frontcourt of Odom/Bynum/Gasol when they were younger and obviously much better than they are now (and 3 bigs who can all pass the ball extremely well, which is huge and often overlooked), in the pathetic western conference that had crappy frontcourts, and Lebron has 8 rings now, not just 5.

What happened when OKC brought in Perkins to add to Ikaka and Durant up front to match the Lakers frontcourt ???, and what happened when Dallas brought in Chandler to add to Dirk up front matching the Lakers frontcourt advantage in the West ?

What happened was Kobe was exposed as the fraud he always was. Kobe and the lakers got trounced 8 games to one in those 2 series vs OKC and Dallas with early playoff exits. Without a dominant frontcourt that could breeze through the western playoffs Kobe is (and was) useless. Nobody in the west was fearful of Kobe the stringbean Bryant and his chucking and stupid play. They were fearful of the lakers frontcourt length and ability.

MJ is just trying desperately to make a legacy of rings, for his own benefit, not anyone else. As Miller said last night, MJ's comments are hogwash because he knows Lebron is staring over his shoulder as the GOAT.

In the quote he says Kobe has had the more successful career, not that he's better. How is that not undeniable? And that should be the case given Kobe has had twice as long of a career. People are making something out of nothing.
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^^ lol at kobe is the greater champion. My ass.

Give Lebron or Wade a PRIME Shaq for 8 years and either one of them win 5 rings, not just 3 in 8 years.

Give Lebron a dominant frontcourt of Odom/Bynum/Gasol when they were younger and obviously much better than they are now (and 3 bigs who can all pass the ball extremely well, which is huge and often overlooked), in the pathetic western conference that had crappy frontcourts, and Lebron has 8 rings now, not just 5.

What happened when OKC brought in Perkins to add to Ikaka and Durant up front to match the Lakers frontcourt ???, and what happened when Dallas brought in Chandler to add to Dirk up front matching the Lakers frontcourt advantage in the West ?

What happened was Kobe was exposed as the fraud he always was. Kobe and the lakers got trounced 8 games to one in those 2 series vs OKC and Dallas with early playoff exits. Without a dominant frontcourt that could breeze through the western playoffs Kobe is (and was) useless. Nobody in the west was fearful of Kobe the stringbean Bryant and his chucking and stupid play. They were fearful of the lakers frontcourt length and ability.

MJ is just trying desperately to make a legacy of rings, for his own benefit, not anyone else. As Miller said last night, MJ's comments are hogwash because he knows Lebron is staring over his shoulder as the GOAT.


UMAD...

What happened when Lebron got DPOY Ben Wallace?....with an all star backcourt teammate?....still got merked.....

what happened when Lebron Joined Prime wade and Prime Bosh......still got merked.

Lebron had to become a better player and better shooter/post player .....he didn't have those same skillset early in his career ( like Kobe did).....

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Kobe>Lebron.....even the Kobetard MJ agrees...

neener...neener...neener....
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:51 PM   #93
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I actually think MJ is set against LeBron. From memory I've never really heard him say anything overly positive about the guy. Right now it feels like he has to begrudgingly acknowledge LeBron's ability.

Jordan has rarely came out and said anything about any of the players after him.
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In the quote he says Kobe has had the more successful career, not that he's better. How is that not undeniable? And that should be the case given Kobe has had twice as long of a career. People are making something out of nothing.


- MJ never said anything about careers...

- He said Kobe because...Kobe's skillset is proven to be more effective at winning then Lebrons.

- Jordan obviosly puts way more into winning vs marginal Stats differences...

- Yes Kobe has played longer.....but he is still going.....and his skillset is Proven Time and Time again


hey GUY...you gotta admit......MJ sounds like a Kobetard right?
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:00 PM   #95
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If you ask Jordan in an interview and not where he ranks, he'll say top 10 guard of all time, because he's always talking about not being disrespectful to other all time great guards. And remember, he wasn't talking about just shooting guards.

I'm a huge Jordan fan and hate Kobe, but that was definitely a slight. And from what I remember, he didn't even say Kobe was a top 10 guard of all-time. I think he said Kobe is "probably" a top 10 guard of all-time.

From the point of view that the media takes, I would assume that they would make a case for at least arguably Jordan, Magic, West, and Oscar. Then maybe just to be nice, he'd consider some of the lesser guards like Isiah, Cousy, etc. So maybe him saying top 10 instead of top 5 is explainable and not just him being a dick about it. But the fact that he couldn't even emphatically say he's top 10 comes across clearly as a slight.

He's never admitted it, but I guarantee that Jordan cringes whenever people compare Kobe's ring count to Jordan's since 3 of them came with Shaq and since Kobe's playoff performances don't really compare. He probably says to himself that if he had had Shaq for 8 years he probably would've broken Russell's record
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:12 PM   #96
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- MJ never said anything about careers...

- He said Kobe because...Kobe's skillset is proven to be more effective at winning then Lebrons.

- Jordan obviosly puts way more into winning vs marginal Stats differences...

- Yes Kobe has played longer.....but he is still going.....and his skillset is Proven Time and Time again


hey GUY...you gotta admit......MJ sounds like a Kobetard right?

He didn't say anything like that unless you're referring to something else. He referred to Kobe's attitude which is based on their career. The Inside Crew basically said the same thing afterwards.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:13 PM   #97
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This is more like it. Took yall long enough to start the shit talking
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:23 PM   #98
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He didn't say anything like that unless you're referring to something else. He referred to Kobe's attitude which is based on their career. The Inside Crew basically said the same thing afterwards.


Think about it for 1 second....

- Ahmad Rashad didn't ask....who's career is better?......that is stupid.

- He asked ..."Kobe or Lebron?".....( who is the better player?....better player at thier absolute best?)

- at thier best.....Both are Champions, Both can take over games and impose thier will.....Kobe's skillset has done it more and more often.....

that's why MJ said Kobe....of course Kobe's career is better....he played longer,
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Think about it for 1 second....

- Ahmad Rashad didn't ask....who's career is better?......that is stupid.

- He asked ..."Kobe or Lebron?".....( who is the better player?....better player at thier absolute best?)

- at thier best.....Both are Champions, Both can take over games and impose thier will.....Kobe's skillset has done it more and more often.....

that's why MJ said Kobe....of course Kobe's career is better....he played longer,

Yes, but then he referred to their championships. If they were just talking about them at their best, the ring count is irrelevant. He wasn't talking about right now or both at their best.

It was obviously not a very specified question. But if he's referring to ring count, then career is obviously what he's referring to. He even said that doesn't mean Lebron can't get more.
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So I guess MJ thinks Russel is the GOAT?

Possibly since he himself doesn't think its fair to anoint him GOAT. He's always said its unfair to the guys who came before him and he never got a chance to play against those guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb6VWg39NpQ

8:42 minute mark if you need to hear what he thinks about himself being called the greatest
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It seems like LeBron is butt hurt now.

He needs to learn to just shut his mouth and let his play do the talking.

He is becoming annoying again.
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:24 PM   #102
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It seems like LeBron is butt hurt now.

He needs to learn to just shut his mouth and let his play do the talking.

He is becoming annoying again.
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It seems like LeBron is butt hurt now.

He needs to learn to just shut his mouth and let his play do the talking.

He is becoming annoying again.
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Lots of salty LBJ nut huggers here

I imagine had MJ picked LBJ, y'all would be creaming your pants
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Lots of salty LBJ nut huggers here

I imagine had MJ picked LBJ, y'all would be creaming your pants
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