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Old 01-30-2013, 04:58 PM   #61
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Default Re: Now that Kobe has decided to be a facilitator, is he better at it than Lebron James?

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If Kobe Bryant wanted to he could lead the league in assists, but that's not his job here.

Playing with Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, Pau Gasol.... his assists should be through the roof... It would be a joke if they're not... Most stacked team in the league, certainly the most expensive.
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No, comparing MJ to Magic is not a valid comparison it's a strawman argument to make my discussion topic look bad but it's a horrible analogy because MJ even in his stretch wasn't even reaching the same assist counts as Magic where as Kobe the past three games is averaging almost double the assists per game as Lebron - he's averaging THIRTEEN assists a game. Small window obviously, but it's the window I'm asking people to talk about - and people are getting offended. Maybe the window is too small for a valid discussion, but jesus people need to stop acting like it's offensive to bring such topics up.
How is that even debatable? No shit 3 games is to small of a window with someone of a sane mind to think kobe is on lebron's level of facilitating
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:01 PM   #63
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Default Re: Now that Kobe has decided to be a facilitator, is he better at it than Lebron James?

Lebron does it while scoring 26+ per game and rebounding.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:02 PM   #64
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it's not how u start. it's how u finish

compare Lebron's stats from age 30-34 to Kobe's from 30-34 and it will be telling.
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Playing with Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, Pau Gasol.... his assists should be through the roof... It would be a joke if they're not... Most stacked team in the league, certainly the most expensive.

You obviously haven't seen the Lakers play this year have you
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:04 PM   #66
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Ok, here's a few small windows from the '09-'10 season alone (where Lebron averaged 8.6 APG, a # Kobe couldn't reach in his dreams):

(11/28/09-12/6/10): 12, 10, 11, 10
Average of 10.75 APG

(1/27/10-2/2/10): 11, 13, 11, 15
Average of 12.5 APG

(2/9/10-2/13/10): 11, 13, 15
Average of 13 APG (*Scored 32 2x, 43/13Rbs/15 Asts trip
double during stretch)

So the answer to the ridiculous question in the OP is a resounding NO. All people with basic sense already knew that though.

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while turning his playmates into spot up role players? Lebron is notorious for brining players stats down.
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If Kobe Bryant wanted to he could lead the league in assists, but that's not his job here.
If LeBron wanted to he could lead the league in scoring, but that's not his job here.

Afterall, he's actually proven that ... he has just 1 less scoring title than Kobe, and has 2x 30 ppg to Kobe's 3x 30 ppg seasons.

He also won his scoring title in a more balanced officiated year (2008) compared to the league adjustment years of 2006 and 2007.

Where as Kobe's never even finished top five in assists per game. But sure, we'll take your word for it.
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while turning his playmates into spot up role players? Lebron is notorious for brining players stats down.
and ruining careers

see Larry Hughes, Mo Williams, Shaq, among others
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and ruining careers

see Larry Hughes, Mo Williams, Shaq, among others
Mo Williams was never a better player than he was playing with LeBron. He got better, and got undeserved recognition playing along side him, then got exposed come playoff time for his own personal short comings.

Larry Hughes was already on the tail end of his career, and then had personal issues that spiraled his career into mess and then extinction.

Shaq was already a shell of what he used to be by 2006, let alone 2010. Don't even try to make the argument that Shaq should've been better with LeBron and that it was Bron who ruined his career.

The guy blew his achilles the very next year simply by running up the court. Shaq should've retired in 2007 or after his nice little turn around rub in Phoenix in 2008 due to an excellent medical staff.

He was done by the time he got to the Cavs in the 2009 - 2010 season, you're being a troll.
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and ruining careers

see Larry Hughes, Mo Williams, Shaq, among others
Wow you are dumb.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:11 PM   #71
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Kobe the past three games is averaging 13 assists a game, so this 3 game stretch peak at the moment is actually equal to Lebron's highest peak that season - this makes the comparison all the more worthy does it not?

Absolutely not

Lebron did it for a whole season, averaging nearly 9 APG. I just posted the stretches were he put up double digit assists, and he still managed to put up big scoring numbers in most instances.

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Kobe's 3 game stretch peak when he wants to be the facilitator is equal to Lebron during Lebron's best passing season? As a fan who "stans" neither one of these guys the comparison seems a lot more worthy to me than some of you guys are acting, some of you guys are acting like it's sacreligious to point this out. 39 assists in 3 games is damn impressive, Lebron in his best passing season only did it once. And you guys are straight up trying to belittle me for bringing it up as a discussion - just sayin

How about we wait to see if Kobe can sustain this for 2 weeks, let alone a season or entire career, then we'll have the conversation about how he measures up to an ATG facilitator.

In the meantime, let's discuss if Troy Hudson is a better scorer than Isaiah Thomas. After all he had 92 points (31 PPG) in 3 games in the playoffs one season.
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Lebron does it while scoring 26+ per game and rebounding.
lol @ Rebound

How many rebounds does Lebron get off playing pf and from the line? in case u did not know Kobe is a guard
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It's worth discussing

14 pts / 11 assists stuff is LBJs really off night.

Even 21 pts / 14 assists. is LBJs off night.

Come talke to me when Kobe hits 25 pts / 15 assists / 13 rebounds.

LBJ is SUPERIOR to any Kobe version. Peak Prime or today's current washed up trash.
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lol @ Rebound

How many rebounds does Lebron get off playing pf and from the line? in case u did not know Kobe is a guard
Just saying that Lebron gets assists while also doing everything else. Kobe has had alot of assists the past 3 games but scoring has plummeted. This new "passing kobe" will be done in a week or two anyway
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while turning his playmates into spot up role players? Lebron is notorious for brining players stats down.

Yeah, getting assists with Andy Varejao and Boobie Gibson as teammates is a bit more challenging than doing it with Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, Pau Gasol, etc

I can't believe people actually take this shit seriously.
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