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Old 01-21-2013, 04:43 PM   #31
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Default Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players

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red1 all over this thread trying to defend lebron and wade, slurping their coock
How did the 2012 playoffs feel f*ckboy? Now that they won together you lost all of your weak ammo.

Deal with it


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Old 01-21-2013, 04:44 PM   #32
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It is telling. Today's players are more worried about looking good on paper (stat sheets).
where as Kobe is more worried about looking good on ESPN (highlights)
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:45 PM   #33
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Wade and Lebron are the type that won't toss a half court shot at the end of the quarter just to protect their FG%. Kobe will, because he's not a puussy that cares about stats, and he'll do anything to give his team an advantage.

and in other news, red1 continues to slurp that juice off bron's diick
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:46 PM   #34
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enough with your homoerotic imagery keep that shit inside your mind next time
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:48 PM   #35
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I am in agreement with you. Like most topics, I think there's two sides to this story. All players obviously cannot be so choosy that they only opt to shoot when it's a wide open dunk. On the flip side, they also can't opt to shoot every single time down the floor.

The entire game of basketball consists of finding the right mix. Flat out chasing a points per game average without at least kind of taking efficiency into account would be and always has been very misguided. I had a teammate who seemed to be chasing a points quota my sophomore year. He took 70 more shots than anyone else on the team and shot at a 27% clip. It wasn't pretty.

Again though, on the other hand, if players are constantly thinking about their running field goal percentage, I can see how that'd be a detriment as well. I'd say the best goal would be to worry about taking good shots, period. If a player's taking shots that are of the highest quality for their team on a given possession, they should not worry about a thing. But if they're just out there firing up terrible shots because "that's how they play", then yes, a change might be in order.

Agreed... especially with the bolded.

And some players rise from average to All-Stars once they start doing this.

A prime example is Tony Parker.

His first few years in the league, he was attempting a large amount of three pointers (trigger happy). And it wasn't always pretty because he had a faulty jump shot.

01-02: 2.5... 9.2 ppg (.42 FG%)
02-03: 3.0... 15.5 ppg (.46 FG%)
03-04: 2.7... 14.7 ppg (.45 FG%)
04-05: 2.0... 16.6 ppg (.48 FG%)

Then, in 2006, he stopped taking three's (in part due to Pop's orders), he became the most efficient PG in the league, one of the best finishers of all positions, and it opened things up for the Spurs shooters (as defenders collapsed on Parker).

05-06: 0.5... 18.9 ppg (.55 FG%)... first AS appearance
06-07: 0.5... 18.6 ppg (.52 FG%)... second AS appearance... Finals MVP.

Since then, Parker has been living in the paint and been the PG we pretty much all recognize today as efficient and taking the best shots for himself and the team. He's taken no where close to 3 three's a game since his sophomore season. At that time of his improvement, 05-07, Parker was also working with Chip Engelland to revamp his jumper, and it helped immensely (see: 07 playoffs). Nowadays, Parker's jumper is solid, but it took discipline and hard work.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:49 PM   #36
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Default Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players

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Wade and Lebron are the type that won't toss a half court shot at the end of the quarter just to protect their FG%. Kobe will, because he's not a puussy that cares about stats, and he'll do anything to give his team an advantage.

and in other news, red1 continues to slurp that juice off bron's diick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoU6xyXTm9Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c_d7vBY3zc
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:50 PM   #37
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A player that wants to take efficient shots within the context of an offense ... Wow, what an idiot.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:55 PM   #38
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LeBron and Wade are winning games, and are the defending champions. Just saying, whatever they are doing is working so idiots need to stop acting like they're hurting their team or some bullshit.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:57 PM   #39
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I'm pretty sure Kobe thinks he can hit 100% of the shots he takes. Doesn't know when to stop shooting fadeaways.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:57 PM   #40
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LeBron and Wade are winning games, and are the defending champions. Just saying, whatever they are doing is working so idiots need to stop acting like they're hurting their team or some bullshit.

Yep.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:57 PM   #41
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This is nothing new to locker rooms. How many times have we heard about guys competing for most points, rebounds, steals, or fewest turnovers etc. As long as it's not taking away from the team/game it's fine (throwing it up at the end of quarters isn't important, but if they're preserving FG% late in games and passing up the best possible look, that's something else).
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:59 PM   #42
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LeBron and Wade are winning games, and are the defending champions. Just saying, whatever they are doing is working so idiots need to stop acting like they're hurting their team or some bullshit.
last year all they would ever come with was "I dont like lbj and dwade so I am going to whine about something and then say that they dont have what it takes to win for that reason"



this year "I still dont like them so I am still going to whine and be irrational"

newsflash if your stars prioritize efficiency then your team is in good hands


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Old 01-21-2013, 05:00 PM   #43
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both videos from before they joined the heat and started acting like puussies

wade back then was the dude who single handedly won the championship. Bron wasn't the guy who had to join a star stacked team because he couldnt do it himself yet.
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Default Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players

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both videos from before they joined the heat and started acting like puussies

wade back then was the dude who single handedly won the championship. Bron wasn't the guy who had to join a star stacked team because he couldnt do it himself yet.
deal with it
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:21 PM   #45
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Lol players these days are so mentally weak. WTF like who cares about stats. Couldn't imagine a guy like Jordan or Bird saying this shit.
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