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Old 11-28-2012, 04:14 PM   #91
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Default Re: Does Lebron really make his teammates better? Varejao?

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Good point. Varajao now = just as good when with LeBron. Varajao now = All-star. Therefore Varajao with LeBron = All-star. It's their own logic.

Either Andy was always this good and LeBron had more help than people like to admit, or LeBron held Varajao back.
You got it.
Here are the following people (including Cavs fans who I guess we can trust?) who said the same thing.

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Varejao is getting those numbers because he is playing more. Per 36 minutes he was double double almost every year in Cavs. Guy is playing almost 36 minutes per game this year. 10 minutes more in average than when Lebron was there.
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And Im repeating myself. Varejao's improvement is only due to him playing more. Nothing else. Guy averaged about 7 rpg in his 6 seasons with Lebron in about 24 mpg and since Lebron left about 11 rpg in 33 mpg.
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Varejao was always a great rebounder, but his career high rpg right now is a combination result of career high in minutes and career low in rebounding help around him.... his ppg is also a result of minutes, offensive rebounds and career low in scoring help around him (Kyrie aint playing either)...
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Varajao is doing much better on boards due to his increased minutes and the lack of rebounders around him. However I will say one elephant in the room in spite of OP getting thrashed... Lebron failed to recognize and capitolize on the effective P&R game Varajao has. Varajao + Kyrie on the P&R has been awesome, and Varajao was not utilized this way in the Lebron era despite Lebron's reputation as some genius playmaker. Kyrie has breathed new life into Varajao as an offensive tool - he exploited an ability he had that Lebron never recognized.
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More minutes per game, more FGA per game = more points, more rebounds.

He's always been a solid player with limited minutes during those LeBron years. His stats look a lot better now because of more minutes and more FGA.

So when, not if, when Varejao gets his all-star this year.. we can conclude that Lebron has always had all-star talent on his team, in fact one of the greatest help you can have on your team is a rebounding star since he does not need the ball to be effective.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:15 PM   #92
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Default Re: Does Lebron really make his teammates better? Varejao?

Varejao was great with LeBron. He probably should've been the 6th man of the year in 2010.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:42 PM   #93
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Default Re: Does Lebron really make his teammates better? Varejao?

So after Verajao, the next victim is Bosh.

Look at the type of game this guy has without Lebron hogging the ball every single possession, turning him into a spot-up shooter.

Does lebron make his teammates better, really?
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:45 PM   #94
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So after Verajao, the next victim is Bosh.

Look at the type of game this guy has without Lebron hogging the ball every single possession, turning him into a spot-up shooter.

Does lebron make his teammates better, really?
I'm starting to think your not a Lebron fan
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:48 PM   #95
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So after Verajao, the next victim is Bosh.

Look at the type of game this guy has without Lebron hogging the ball every single possession, turning him into a spot-up shooter.

Does lebron make his teammates better, really?
You are a dumb troll that is ruining this forum. Bosh is a 3rd option and takes on average 4 shots less than he did when he was with Toronto. How the hell don't you understand that? Do you think Bosh is going to average the same amount of shots in Miami as he did in Toronto? How many FG's per game do you think there is?
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:51 PM   #96
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So after Verajao, the next victim is Bosh.

Look at the type of game this guy has without Lebron hogging the ball every single possession, turning him into a spot-up shooter.

Does lebron make his teammates better, really?

This kid is so fvcking mad LeBron is a better player than his boy chuckbe and will end up with a better career.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:54 PM   #97
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You are a dumb troll that is ruining this forum. Bosh is a 3rd option and takes on average 4 shots less than he did when he was with Toronto. How the hell don't you understand that? Do you think Bosh is going to average the same amount of shots in Miami as he did in Toronto? How many FG's per game do you think there is?
It's not just stats.. his whole game is hidden. Hence this thread stands, when you play with Lebron, you have to sacrifice a huge part of your game, because he handles the ball so much.

Bosh is basically a spot-up shooter, when he can beast like tonight.
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It's not just stats.. his whole game is hidden. Hence this thread stands, when you play with Lebron, you have to sacrifice a huge part of your game, because he handles the ball so much.

Bosh is basically a spot-up shooter, when he can beast like tonight.
Bosh is not basically a spot up shooter. Stop talking outta your ass.

Also, I love Bosh but why would Miami give him more responsibility right now when they are killing the league with the lead of Lebron? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Dwight went from 25/15 player last year to 14/10, ChuckBe in full effect.
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