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Old 11-25-2012, 08:39 PM   #46
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Most of his points (Outside of FTs) come from offensive rebounds and spot up jumpers. That's a big issue right there. He's not that good at creating his own shot.

Defensively he is porous. Sometimes embarassingly bad. He's slow footed and surprisingly easy to abuse in the post. He doesn't get you blocks or steals, either. Far too ground-bound.

He's a decent passer, but so what? Almost everyone in the league is a decent passer.

Remember, the stats he put up last season were on a really, really bad team, devoid of scorers and rebounders. That undoubtedly contributed to his inflated numbers. He's a borderline top 10 player, and that's probably very generous.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:42 PM   #47
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:43 PM   #48
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:17 PM   #49
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Kevin Love is a very good player. I lump him in the Carlos Boozer, Danny Granger box.

Very good players with good stats, that dont impact the game in win/loss. Overpaid players who would excel as a 3rd option on a balanced team.

Ive watched only 4 wolves games, but Kirilenko had better impact on games despite not scoring 20 sumthing points.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:21 PM   #50
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If you would have watched the games, you would have noticed the brace on his shooting hand and the grimace on his face at the free throw line.

Its funny how people make assumptions from three games worth of box scores.


I have watched 2 games since K Loves return but the thread called for stats. Also he does have the brace on the shooting hand so why throw up so many shots? Your just proving my point even more
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:10 PM   #51
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Can someone write me up a good summary of why Kevin Love is a "non impact" player, using stats and analysis. I need CONCRETE stats as well.
He's white and when you're white it's impossible to be good. Remember this is ISH where Steve Francis is a top PG of all time.

Remember when black guys like KG are on losing teams, the front office isn't giving them enough help. When it's a white guy he's just not an impact player. Blake Griffin is another. He's hated on for being high yellow.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:46 AM   #52
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Most of his points (Outside of FTs) come from offensive rebounds and spot up jumpers. That's a big issue right there. He's not that good at creating his own shot.

Defensively he is porous. Sometimes embarassingly bad. He's slow footed and surprisingly easy to abuse in the post. He doesn't get you blocks or steals, either. Far too ground-bound.

He's a decent passer, but so what? Almost everyone in the league is a decent passer.

Remember, the stats he put up last season were on a really, really bad team, devoid of scorers and rebounders. That undoubtedly contributed to his inflated numbers. He's a borderline top 10 player, and that's probably very generous.


Idiot!
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:56 AM   #53
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Kevin Love is a very good player. I lump him in the Carlos Boozer, Danny Granger box.

Very good players with good stats, that dont impact the game in win/loss. Overpaid players who would excel as a 3rd option on a balanced team.

Ive watched only 4 wolves games, but Kirilenko had better impact on games despite not scoring 20 sumthing points.

Granger has no impact? The Pacers donīt look the same to me, and from watching DC on the Mavericks it sure aint him they are missing.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:03 AM   #54
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some quick stats regarding love's rebounding

last year with love on the bench, they would have ranked dead last in the nba in defensive rebounding (they rebounded only 67% of their opponenets misses with love on the bench), and they were just below average on the offensive glass (they rebounded 26% of their own misses)

while when love is in the game they are effectively the 2nd best offensive rebounding team (they rebound 32% of their own misses with love in the game), and they are just below average in defensive rebounding with love in the game (they rebound 72.4% of their opponents misses)

so this notion that love doesnt impact his team is pretty silly.

he single handedly turns his team from a significantly below average rebounding team, to a significantly above average rebounding team.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:28 AM   #55
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The Minnesota Timberwolves record in the Kevin Love era:

87-237

.269 Winning Percentage


Some impact player.......
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The Minnesota Timberwolves record in the Kevin Love era:

87-237

.269 Winning Percentage


Some impact player.......
If this dude was black you would be complaining how he doesn't have any help. This shit is too hilarious. Yeah, we're all aware of how awesome the T wolves have looked on paper for Love's career. It's all his fault for sure. It's funny, when the Sixers were a joke of a team, Iverson was padding his stats in his rookie year for those stupid 40 pt games, he was heralded as a talent with no help. No one called his numbers empty yet he was clearly stat padding. But yeah, Love sucks.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:35 AM   #57
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The Minnesota Timberwolves record in the Kevin Love era:

87-237

.269 Winning Percentage


Some impact player.......
there's only one guy in the league that can turn that roster into a winning team.

too bad Lebron chose Miami
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:38 AM   #58
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The Minnesota Timberwolves record in the Kevin Love era:

87-237

.269 Winning Percentage


Some impact player.......
Kyrie Irving must be a terrible player as well.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:56 AM   #59
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If this dude was black you would be complaining how he doesn't have any help. This shit is too hilarious. Yeah, we're all aware of how awesome the T wolves have looked on paper for Love's career. It's all his fault for sure. It's funny, when the Sixers were a joke of a team, Iverson was padding his stats in his rookie year for those stupid 40 pt games, he was heralded as a talent with no help. No one called his numbers empty yet he was clearly stat padding. But yeah, Love sucks.


Allen Iverson was a 21 yrs.old Rookie while Love is a 24/25 yrs.old 5th year NBA Veteran. AI led his team in the NBA Finals with an above average supporting casts.
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Allen Iverson was a 21 yrs.old Rookie while Love is a 24/25 yrs.old 5th year NBA Veteran. AI led his team in the NBA Finals with an above average supporting casts.

AI was coached by Larry Brown.
His supporting cast included the DPOY and a savvy group of vets.
The Sixers also played in a joke of conference.
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