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Old 11-26-2012, 02:48 AM   #61
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

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Wade is my fav player.



I've seen plenty of Wade, probably more than anybody here. I know his game inside and out. He can do some of the things you guys claim he does, on a very limited basis, if and when he does do them.

His strengths are his speed and slashing.

When he's hot, he can get some shots off, but only when he's hot. What he does when he's hot, is the type of shit Tmac, Kobe, Melo and others did on an avg night. What made Wade special was his ability to explode and keep attacking while he was hot. Most players start taking long shots when they're hot, Wade would keep attacking.

What you say is inconsistent with his game in 2008-09 then. It makes me believe that you didn't see enough of him or you don't remember what he did that year.

You deny his pull range game and say it was inconsistent on the year he shot the best from midrange as evidence by the stats that I posted earlier in the thread. Very comparable to T-Mac's midrange game that year. Then you deny the style of play he used to have with his dribble up pull up game or his off the ball movement.

Back in that year, his mid-range was not inconsistent and he didn't just hit when he was hot either. He was almost automatic at the mid-range. Not only did he shot the most from midrange that year, his percentage was great. You can see it in almost all the basketball sites that records the % made/miss of which player shoot. His numbers was very comparable to T-Mac's 2002-03 year. It's actually better in the 10-15 feet. We can check it out now since we have the stats of how well they do from the mid-range game now. I wouldn't be surprise if Wade got most of his points from the midrange game back then. I haven't checked, but he took the most attempts from the midrange that year than any other season. And his % was very good.

Stats back up Wade's good mid-range game, but watching him play to see how he got them is another too. He did came off of curls and iso take a couple of dribbles and pull up into the defender face. He iso'd a whole lot more than he did the curls, and you say didn't do any of that stuff. I don't know what else to tell you other than he did.

I do agree T-Mac is better off the ball and is the better shooter overall though.

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Old 11-26-2012, 03:07 AM   #62
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

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Did Dwyane Wade ever carry a weak squad past the 1st round by himself?
Nope.

Technically, neither did Kobe Bryant.

The only perimeter players to lead a weaker squad as underdog over another superior team was Michael Jordan and LeBron James.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:34 AM   #63
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

Wow Andgar actually spitting truths here. Outside of cell phones, dude knows his stuff.

T-Mac was an offensive juggernaut. Just imagine a Durant that can dribble, dunk, more athletic, can post up, and all that. Better yet, just imagine a taller and longer Kobe.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:37 AM   #64
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Did Dwyane Wade ever carry a weak squad past the 1st round by himself?
He won a championship where he was the only one who was dominating.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:37 AM   #65
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He won a championship where he was the only one who was dominating.
2005, Shaq was in a suit vs the Wizards

Wade didn't lose a game to Arenas til '08...I used to wish we could get the Wizards every year.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:59 PM   #66
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

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Wade was a better defender, finisher, better playmaker, and had better shot selection.

T-Mac was a better scorer, better ball handling skills, more versatile, could move better off the ball. Could play PG, SG, SF.

I think peak Wade was better because his defense capability. Although peak T-Mac was more of a threat all areas of the floor, peak D-Wade was more efficient and had a mid range game in his peak.

You are joking right? Tracy Mcgrady was a better ball handler than Dwyane Wade. What a god damn ****ing joke.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:17 PM   #67
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

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I'm baffled this was even asked. Wade is the clear answer. The guy had a greater will to win than McGrady ever had. If McGrady had a killer instinct, we'd be talking Hall of Fame here and a different answer to the question.

No he doesn't. Wade played with Shaq and Lebron. In the seasons after Shaq and before Lebron, prime Wade could not even win a playoff series...sound familiar? (Hint-Tmac, Kobe).
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:30 PM   #68
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You are joking right? Tracy Mcgrady was a better ball handler than Dwyane Wade. What a god damn ****ing joke.

Either you don't remember or have never seen this commercial?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiY67Z57FPU

"Where would I be without handles?! Game over EHNNNNNNT!"
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:45 PM   #69
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

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You are joking right? Tracy Mcgrady was a better ball handler than Dwyane Wade. What a god damn ****ing joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3jTa...eature=related

when has Wade done anything as impressive as that?

riddle me that
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94-Ath0UUc

All I know is Wade can't throw the ball that far with that little effort.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3jTa...eature=related

when has Wade done anything as impressive as that?

riddle me that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXT9VSh7YA0

When has McGrady done anything as impressive as this?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXT9VSh7YA0

When has McGrady done anything as impressive as this?

riddle me that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-8FksMVAdU

When has Wade done anything as impressive as that?

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:33 PM   #73
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Default Re: Peak Dwyane Wade vs Peak Tracy McGrady

Are people trying to argue McGrady is a better ballhandler? Really?

Wade was the one known for his deadly crossover. I can never remember that being mentioned as a big selling point about McGrady's game. Or that I myself was ever that impressed by it. Both have nice handles, but Wade is a class above.
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Wade was the one known for his deadly crossover. I can never remember that being mentioned as a big selling point about McGrady's game. Or that I myself was ever that impressed by it. Both have nice handles, but Wade is a class above.
T-Mac had crazy handle, and a vicious crossover.

Wade is not a class above. Not like your biased or anything.

They are on the same level.
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T-Mac had crazy handle, and a vicious crossover.

Wade is not a class above. Not like your biased or anything.

They are on the same level.

Nah. Tracy used to dribble the ball much higher, and was never as proficient as pulling off moves like Wade. I've seen Wade split double teams going through his legs, behind his back, etc. McGrady was never pulling that shit off.
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